Should speaker Pelosi be replaced?

[TheFarseer]

Poll question: Should speaker Pelosi be replaced?

Look, we've been catching alot of flack for her and I KNOW it is dragging down some of our people. And if you believe she should be replaced, maybe you can give me an idea of who would be a good person to replace her.

It has been pointed out that calling her "speaker" is not accurate. I hesitate to call her minority leader because someone will say that's only for two more days. I can't win here.

[rzemanfl]

1. I am not voting in this and encourage others to not vote too. This

is a crappy thing to post two days before the election. Let's win the fucking election and then fight amongst ourselves.

[TheFarseer]

15. Fine you can ignore this if you want

but this isn't any different than bush dragging them down. I'm running into too much of this in Nebraska trying to get people out to vote for my man, Jim Esch. I just can't take it anymore. I know it's not fair but I'm getting f*cking sick of this and we might do something to help ourselves. Someone that they won't oppose out of hand might do better advancing a democratic agenda also. Their attempts to paint Harry Reid as a radical left winger can't get very far because it's just not true. Attacking Pelosi seems to be working though.

[sampsonblk]

33. Someone that they won't oppose...? Who's THAT???

They will oppose anyone. They still hate John McCain. And he's one of them! If you are against Bush, you are an evil liberal. Period.

Its time to stand up to them and not worry about how they will react. Let's keep in mind they never consulted us when appointing Bolton to the UN, Alito to the Supreme Court, keeping Rumsfeld at the DoD, etc. Time to fight. Hard.

[rzemanfl]

35. There is a rule at DU about insulting people based on where

they live. I will abide by it and see its wisdom.

[pnwmom]

36. Just ask your people why they'd prefer a Foley-enabler

like Hastert?

[TheFarseer]

37. I have a war chest of anti-Hastert material

and it doesn't make any difference.

[demigoddess]

39. misogyny runs deep and strong.

just ask any woman

[babylonsister]

2. Anyone in her position would be badmouthed. I say she should

stay and I look forward to seeing her in action without the invisible chains holding her back.

[eallen]

3. She's not yet speaker, but I'm happy to give her a chance.

:hippie:

[PBass]

5. She's great. But this thread is premature celebration. (NT)

[Catherine Vincent]

4. Wait until after Tuesday, then I'll take the poll.

:)

[Kerrytravelers]

6. Why? Because the republican spin machine is in full motion?

That's just their hot air. She'll be a great Speaker.

[MADem]

7. We're only "taking flack" from assholes who wouldn't give a shit if fucking

Mother Theresa were the Minority Leader right now. You can't please these flack tossing asswipes, so stop trying. Fuck them.

Christ, some people just don't get the essentials of gutter politics. It's a game the GOP does very well at, you see.

[NJ Democrats]

8. Give her a chance!

[Infinite Hope]

9. At first I thought she should not be Speaker...

but then I realized if we want aggressive investigations, she's the person we MUST have in leadership to ensure those go forward.

[gully]

10. Why should she be replaced?

Dean gets "flack" Clinton, Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Conyers etc. Can you name ONE Democrat who hasn't gotten "flack?"

[TheFarseer]

16. Harry Reid doesn't

because attempts to paint him as far left just have no basis in truth and still many people think he is an effective leader for us.

[gully]

19. Ah so being painted "far left" by the "far right" is the problem?

Reid has been accused of financial scandals, where do you end your "replace those who are criticized" bonanza?

[TheFarseer]

23. that was nonsense and it didn't get anywhere

A guy buys land outside of a booming, growing city and makes money on it 5 years later. What's so hard to figure out here?

[gully]

24. Yes it's nonsense, as are the smears against Pelosi.

Thus my point.

[Mass]

20. He gets flacks on his ethics, which is not better.

Most people do not know Reid and have no idea whether he is an effective leader or not. As for Pelosi, most people still do not know who she is. However, each time a democrat is close to be in a position of leadership, the GOP and the media slam him.

[MGD]

41. John Murtha?

[LynneSin]

43. John Murtha for Speaker - No and btw, HELL NO!

I love what John Murtha is doing for the Iraq War and I have a ton of respect for the man. But don't fool yourself, Murtha is one of the most conservative Democrats in the House and extremely anti-choice. I know that Reid also is on the anti-choice side but he was never hardcore like Murtha.

I'd rather keep Pelosi - she's earned it!

[MGD]

45. If the Republicans, in control of all three branches of Government, can't overturn Roe V Wade

Jack Murtha will not touch it. Nanci has worked hard to get where she is and I wouldn't want to see her fucked out of her rightful position but, being one of those Democrats who supports the right to bear arms with the same enthusiasm that you support the right to have an abortion, I can not help but worry somewhat about Nanci's priorities. As God is my witness, that is my ONLY problem with Pelosi. Other than that, I really like her.

[LynneSin]

46. It's John Murtha and Nancy Pelosi

Just like with Abortion, gun laws aren't going to change either. But it's more than just abortions that Murtha is conservative.

[gully]

47. She and Murtha agreed on strategy regarding the draw down of US

troops in Iraq. They both knew what they were doing, which is all the more reason I love Nancy Pelosi!

[JI7]

11. fuck this poll

chickenlittles who cower anytime a Democrat is attacked and think the problem is the Democrat rather than the Republicans who attack .

[gully]

21. Indeed.

.

[jobycom]

12. What, you want a Speaker the Republicans like?

Anyone in her position would get the same treatment. She's not dragging anyone down.

[Hippo_Tron]

13. I don't think people understand the symbolic significance of Pelosi becoming Speaker

How do you think women will react if Pelosi is poised to become the highest ranked woman in government EVER and we deny her this? Sorry but I'm not under any crazy illusion that we are going to put a Democrat in the White House in 2008 without solid support from women and if we deny Pelosi this position I'm not so sure that women will be behind us, especially if the GOP nominates someone who is somewhat moderate on abortion.

I'm not taking the female vote for granted and gender aside if we win on Tuesday, Pelosi will have led the Dem caucus to its first majority in over a decade. There is no sense in throwing out your leader when you win. You throw out your leader when you don't win.

[KingFlorez]

14. The election hasn't even happened yet

And already your saying Pelosi shouldn't be Speaker.

[pscot]

17. Sexually insecure Republican men

are afraid of her? All the more reason to make her the Speaker. Meet their whining with the simple question, "Why do you feel threatened by women with strong personalities? Is there anything else you'ld like to share with us?" All in due time of course.

[gully]

22. "Why do you feel threatened by women with strong personalities?"

Good question, and I think it pertains.

[melnjones]

28. Yup, that's pretty much the problem.

If she were male she wouldn't be having these issues...hence, I want her to be speaker:-)

[smoogatz]

18. Well, the good news is that this kind of idiocy is relatively rare on DU.

The bad news is that it's not altogether extinct. What, you want to replace Pelosi because a few winngnuts in Nebraska think she's too far left? Seems like as good a reason as any to keep her, IMO.

[TheFarseer]

26. don't you see them running away from bush?

Why is this different? Don't you see all the people on here saying we shouldn't nominate Hillary in 2008 because she is polarizing and won't win? Why is this different? I don't think you need to call me an idiot for making an observation about house leadership being an issue for some voters.

[smoogatz]

29. Well, let's see--

did Nancy Pelosi lead the country into a disastrous war based on lies? Did she and her handpicked coterie of morons screw it up so badly that the country we "liberated" is now a failed state in the midst of a sectarian/regional/ethnic civil war? Is Pelosi responsible for the deaths of 2800+ US servicemen and women, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians? Is she now in abject denial about the state of the occupation of Iraq? Does she harbor delusions about the "success" of the administration's policies there? Is she the least popular second-term President since Richard Nixon? Does she support torture, warrantless eavesdropping, and the unconstitutional suspension of habeus corpus? No? Then how is it again that she's similar to Bush? Oh, right--the wingnuts don't like her. Earth to Farseer: the Dems could choose Jesus Christ as Speaker, and the wingnuts would all go apeshit and start screaming that he was too liberal (you know, all that commie talk about helping the poor and loving your enemies). I don't know why I'm even explaining this to a sentient adult human being. It's obvious.

[Evergreen Emerald]

25. dragging us down? How? Because Rove deems it so?

BS. She is more than competent and qualified. Stop drinking the koolaid.

[davidinalameda]

27. no attacks on Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table

hard to believe

[kentuck]

30. You want to replace her as Speaker???

Before she even becomes the Speaker?? Unreal.

[truthisfreedom]

31. you replace people who are corrupt or incompetent. you're acting like a concern troll.

which isn't very becoming.

[TheFarseer]

34. I guess I just waited

for 5000 posts, 3 years and multiple donations to take off the troll mask. I have a legitimate strategic question here - only a few people agree with me so I will desist with any future posts along these lines, but I refuse to be labeled as president of the Bush fan club for having a difference of opinion on strategy.

[Crunchy Frog]

32. Looking foreward to having Nancy as Speaker.

If it pisses off the wingnuts, so much the better.

[baldguy]

38. We've let the GOP set the agenda for too long.

Democratic leaders should be selected by Democrats, not the corporate GOP propaganda machine.

[MGD]

40. Doesn't she have to be elected to the position by the rest of the house first?

or does her current position as minority leader automatically make her majority leader in the event of a change? I was under the impression that there was an election process.

[IndianaGreen]

42. Let's discuss this after the elections

If the Democrats take the House, assuming no Diebold hanky-panky, they are not about to vote for someone else for Speaker.

[LynneSin]

44. If you're voting "NO" because of what she said about impeachment...

...then clearly you do not have a fricking clue about political strategy.

That was the smartest thing Pelosi could have said about not making Impeachment a priority if they get control. That was a loaded question in hopes of getting her to talk about a potential impeachment before the election so that the repukes and ESPECIALLY the media could use that against the democratic party. If she even hinted at potential impeachment that would have been used against us by the media. Let's not start counting our chickens before they hatch!

Plus Ms. Pelosi has never been the one spearheading the impeachment, that's Conyers, and not once has he either agreed OR disagreed with Pelosi.

Trust me, Bush will be investigated and if we get the goods, is going after him

[wiley]

48. Don't believe the MSM hype about Pelosi

She a veteran, She's a mother of lots of kids and a grandmother. She's not the radical freak that Republicans are trying to make her out to be. Is that the ultimate in irony, or what?

[Tesha]

49. Why? Is Barney Frank or Charlie Rangel interested? (NT)