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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:15 PM
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I'm noticing a big reduction in the ranks of the 'uninformed' ... are you?
One of the things that pisses me off is the huge number of what I call the 'uninformed'. I know there are lots of reasons for this. Apathy is only one. Busy lives, careers, scraping by from day to day, family illness, whatever.

There were many 'uninformed' that I encountered in 02 and 04. I wasn't paying attention to this factor in 00 (back then ... who knew what were about to face, yanno?). Anyway, of late I'm seeing many people who really *do* know what's going on.

And pretty much, they're pissed off. Even diehard Republicans know what's going on. While perhaps not exactly pissed, they're at least quieter. Not as strident and smug. If they were dogs, their tails would hanging low and limp.

The pulse, if you will, that I'm sensing is feeling very favorable to our side.

I'm hopeful ...... but cautious.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:21 PM
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1. Because more of us are out there, and we aren't silent.
Say your in the store and you say something that most feel is out in left field... then that same person starts hearing it from different people. And then SNL and Comedy Central start satirically spoofing these things. Then your best friend tells you something. You start thinking that the left field isn't so far off from the home run.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:25 PM
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2. It seems like noone
is paying attention anymore. I've heard it from many people that they have quit paying attention because it's just to sad hearing about soldiers being killed. Plus I think that the news that is covered is so worthless that people are watching other things.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:26 PM
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3. I rarely, if ever, run into the 'uninformed'. But that is probably due
to the fact that I live where I live.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:32 PM
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4. That's me...hopeful, but cautious
Some people I know were getting a little uneasy about a year or so ago, and stopped spouting so much of the talking points that they'd heard. Then, there was silence. Now, they're starting to say a few things. I never rub it in, or say I told you so, because I want to be sympathetic, tell them they've been conned, and get them to vote for Democratic candidates in 2006, and 2008.

I'm not going to drive away a vote for Democrats by getting in people's faces with a condescending attitude, because that's more of what a Republican would do if the roles were reversed. I want this whole corrupt administration out, and if it means shutting up while I watch people figure out things I've been telling them for six years, that's fine.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:46 PM
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5. Your post should be framed.
I mean framed as an essential point to us all.
Mature, beautifully stated.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 10:54 PM
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6. HA!
I was just telling someone about this the other day; I work with a lot of redneck men in a bible belt red state, and take my breaks with them. I stopped explaining what was going on behind the curtain to these guys a long time ago, if they get too obnoxious, I leave and finish my break in my office.

Anyway, these guys were never * fans, but they watch faux and don't like anyone, especially a yankee, dissing the Farter in Chief.

I walked in there the other day just as one (usually silent) guy called * a dumbass.

There were murmurs all around the room "Yeah, he IS a dumbass, isn't he?" and much worse.

I was too stunned to ask what suddenly changed their mind.

The usually silent guy told me later that he started to pay closer attention after listening to my anti* diatribes.

But as to what did it for the rest of them, :shrug:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 11:23 PM
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7. Yanno .... in a group like that, if you get one of them thinking ....
.... and he talks just a tiny bit to the others, you can turn them all. No one wants to be left out of the groupthink. They all *knew* he was a dumbass. They just needed one of them to give it voice.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 11:33 PM
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8. I think their inherent distrust of the government did him in.
They saw * as a "cowboy" because that's how he was marketed. (gag me I know)

His handlers and the msm could only keep that curtain closed for so long, and once they got a peek, they knew they had been betrayed.

These aren't bad people, they are self described rednecks but they're trying to get by just like the rest of us.

I just hope this lesson in critical thinking sticks with them, who knows what they'll try to pass off as presidential material in '08.

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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 06:27 AM
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9. Republicans always hang low and limp!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:43 AM
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:06 AM
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11. Why in my thread?
Aw geeeez ..........
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:12 AM
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13. you need more garlic Stinky
you obviously aren't eating enough to keep the trolls away LOL
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 02:48 PM
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26. ha-HAH! My garlic is still operative
But what I *really* want to know is 'why me'? These trolls seem to be attracted to my posts all the time.

Is it my deoderant?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:39 PM
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28. you have a way with words my friend!
:yourock:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:17 AM
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14. LOL
I'm sure it's just your magnetic personality, Stinky. :rofl:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:07 AM
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12. can I just say BullShit
"Blame it on Clinton" is getting pretty damned old

enjoy your stay :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:03 AM
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:18 AM
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21. at least Clinton and Clark didn't attack a country that was no threat
Edited on Sat Aug-26-06 10:23 AM by AZDemDist6
to us and didn't lose over 2500 of our troops on a BS war that had nothing to do with us getting attacked by terrorists

what "fascists elements" are you talking about? if you want to talk Fascism you don't have to look farther than the gang who is in the White House right now. by definition, Fascists are Corporatists and the current admin is nothing if not Corporatists

While I don't agree with every decision the Clinton admin made in Kosovo, it was better than sitting on his hands and watching genocide on a massive scale.

as for narco trafficking, have you seen the article that Afghanistan's poppy crop was the LARGEST EVER! under Bushit's command. I guess bringing Democracy includes allowing farmers to grow whatever they can for the biggest buck per acre. and where do you think those profits are going? to fund more terrorists to attack Western Nations.

your Bushit boy is an incompetent failure and his cabal of NeoCons has made us the laughing stock of the world, crippled our military and given us another generation of Veterans who will need years of medical support due to the use of Depleted Uranium weaponry but has allocated no $$$ for them.

way to go you Repuke idiots

all so you could stick your nose into a woman's private life and to keep Gays from creating stable family units

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:28 AM
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15. Who's "we?"
"We can either vote for a candidate who gives us lip service then does what the hell he is told to do, or vote for candidate whose party is openly hostile to everything we believe."

Who's "we?"
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:39 AM
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16. "We?"
Got a mouse in your pocket?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:44 AM
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17. Well, it seems your theory's been disproven here
but in general, it could be true.

I've noticed a trend among the uninformed who cling to revisionist history (lies): When they begin a sentence with the word "Remember," some "revised history" is sure to follow. As in: "Remember, the moon is made of green cheese and gnomes invaded the nation's flowerbeds in 1998." (Oh yeah, I'd almost forgotten!) :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:28 AM
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:30 AM
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24. BULL. Post links.
For everything you've claimed. I'm sure it'd be very 'informative' to see where you're getting this hogwash.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:33 AM
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25. ROFL
sic em Sparkly :yourock:

PS we should send the Mods some of our espresso this morning eh?

:rofl:
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danimich1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:45 AM
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18. Not here in Wyoming
It's the same as usual. Same ignorance.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 09:48 AM
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19. An informed electorate - The republican party's worse nightmare
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alvarezadams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 10:24 AM
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22. Yet over 50% of Americans
think that WMD's were found in Iraq.

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong

way to go.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 03:40 PM
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27. Most of the people I work with hate Bush
One even wears a t-shirt with "Idiot Son of an Asshole" once a week (we work graveyards in a call center so no one really cares). Of course, he only wears it when our Backwash acting supervisor has the night off...
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