So if Joe wins the primary, you'll all support him, right?

[WyoBlueDog]

I mean, all this "outrage" over many prominent Democrats possibly supporting an Independent Lieberman over a Democratic Lamont, is not just bull is it? So if Sen. Lieberman wins the primary, you won't blame it on the election being stolen, or some such nonsense right? I mean you're not HYPOCRITES right?! If Lamont wins the Dem primary I'll support him, because I'm a DEMOCRAT. So I'm sure you will do the same for Joe too.

And then maybe, just maybe................ just maybe...........
We can try to defeat some Republicans.

[ThomCat]

1. Joe is a republican.

[Waya]

3. Yep.....he sure is.might as well run as one

[LynneSin]

29. Damnit - don't go there

Would republicans help filibuster activist judges like Alito?
Would republicans have 100% NARAL rating?
Would republicans support the filibuster to keep oil companies out of the Arctic Refuge?
Would republicans vote against the Gay Marriage Amendment?
Would republicans filibuster the repeal of the Estate Tax?

I'm not endorsing Joe Lieberman here - just pointing out the FUCKING OBVIOUS! Joe is about as republican as I am. He is a disappointment especially when it comes to the war but consider who he is and what his #1 pet cause is. He is the biggest advocate for the Israel State which is always under threat by other countries in the Middle East. This does not justify his vote in any way; however, it's an insight into what makes Joe tick.

I'd rather have Joe Lieberman any day of the week as my senator knowing that at one point I once had Rick Santorum. If I had to choose between those two my choice would be clear - Joe Lieberman. Fortunately Connecticut has better options HOWEVER once CONNECTICUT decides then we need to keep that seat in the big "D" column even if it means electing Joe Lieberman

:grr:

[Kittycat]

2. NO! Traitor to our troops. eom

[Jim Sagle]

4. Yes, I'll support him. (Even though ThomCat is right.)

[WyoBlueDog]

5. LOL!

Yeah, Joe's a Republican....

Do ya'll live in some kind of underground bunker or something, only planning on coming out if Dennis Kucinich becomes president or something? Most of you really need to face some reality, and learn a little about politics!!

[Kittycat]

6. Why would I support someone that I so strongly disagree with?

It's not just about being republicans or democrats. Do YOU know nothing about politics?

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[Jacobin]

7. He's a PNACing fool and worse than a republican

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing which makes him more dangerous than a wolf not in disguise.

He needs to be defeated. Period.

[mike_c]

8. I would not support Joe Lieberman if he were the last dem on earth....

No hypocrisy involved-- I support liberal, progressive causes, not individuals for their own sake or for their party's sake. Lieberman is a warmongering shill for the Bush administration-- a dem nomination won't chaqnge that.

[station agent]

9. If Joe wins the primary then he needs to keep his stupid seat

So Democrats get closer to the majority. We can't be striving for utopian perfection right now. We just need to stop the bleeding.

[SaveElmer]

10. Yes...it would be hypocritical...

To criticize him and Schumer for not supporting the Democratic nominee in case Lamont were nominated, and not to do the same if Lieberman were. Lieberman would still be better than any Republican...if only because of his views on abortion, the environment, and because he would be a vote for Harry Reid as Majority leader

[derby378]

11. IF...

Zell Miller was once a Democrat, too - we backed him as long as we could stand it, but when he turned against his fellow Dems, that was enough.

If Ned Lamont wins, great. If Joe Lieberman wins, fine. But if Joe loses and then tries to get the DLC and DSCC to work against the will of CT Democrats - it's gonna be war.

[Larkspur]

12. Let me put it this way...

I won't vote against Lieberman in the general election, but I won't vote for him either, nor will "Free Trade" Lieberman get any of my hard earned money or volunteer time.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. Prominent Democrats have the right to individually back who they choose

The Heads of Democratic Institutions, like the DSCC and the Connecticut State Democratic Party, acting in capacity, that's another thing. They raise money from Democrats every year claiming to represent Democrats, and when Democrats vote for their candidate in a Primary, that money should not be used against the Democrats the Primary voters choose.

[inthebrain]

14. If Joe was running in my state

I wouldn vote for him.

I'd vote for a third party candidate instead or write someone else in. If I wasnt afford that option I wouldnt vote at all. I'm not one to settle for less and certainly would not vote for Joe. I think it's more important that I get my voice heard on election day than swear loyality to someone who is a DINO.

[NoPasaran]

15. My support or non-support doesn't mean much

Since I live in another state, but yes: if the Democrats of Connecticut in their wisdom give Lieberman the nomination, I hope he wins and keeps the seat in the "D" category.

[Arugula Latte]

32. Me too --

I wouldn't send him any $, though, that's for sure. Maybe I'd send him some vague vibes that I'd hope he'd beat the Republican ... I'm sure that would mean a lot to Joementum :eyes: ... Not that he knows anything about loyalty to Democrats ....

[Robbien]

16. Joe does not get my money, my support nor my vote

Didn't like him before, don't like him now and will not vote for him in the future.

The hyocrites are the people calling themselves Democrats and then voting for energy lobbyist's and Bush's best friend.

[w4rma]

17. I'll ignore him. I live in Virginia. (nt)

[Pirate Smile]

18. Lamont and Kos (re Daily Kos) both said if Joe wins the nomination

they will support him.

I'm not in Connecticut but if Joe wins the Dem nomination, I want him to win the general election.

Some people may be willing to let it go Republican but I'm certainly not.

The Democrats have to win back control of at least one house of Congress.


We really need to be more focused on picking off Republican seats - help out Ford (TN), Webb (VA), Tester (MT), Casey (PA, whoever is running against Chafee (sorry, the name escapes me right now), plus at least one more.

The key is to pick up Republican seats and NOT LOSE any Democratic ones.

If Ned wins the Primary, I certainly believe he will win the General Election and the Conn. seat will stay Dem.

[Tempest]

20. Lieberman will leave the party if he's elected

If Lieberman wins the election, he's going to bolt the Democrat party.

Electing Lieberman will not help the Democrats. Period.

[Pirate Smile]

26. People need to start pressing him on this point also. Force him to

address this issue as well. He needs to commit to not switching parties or going independent. Considering how poorly he has handled these issues so far, how he answers this question could also be telling.

[Tempest]

19. Many prominent Democrats?

Stop watching Faux News.

At best there's only a few, and they don't represent the majority of Democrats.


Electing Liberman will not defeat a Repug. It will be electing a Repug lite. And there's no difference between the two.

[William769]

21. Heres a crazy Idea.

Lets let the People of CT decide! :eyes:

[KingFlorez]

22. Some will probably vote for his Republican opponent

They can't see we need all Democrats reelected if we want to win

[Tempest]

24. Since when does winning trump ideology?

I thought progressives were more disciplined than that.

[William769]

27. You would think

But reading here on DU, I'm not so sure.

[KingFlorez]

33. Not everyone is going to be how we want them

That's one of the reasons we have problems winning, trying to be ideologically pure. Lieberman is one of the most liberal senators, even though he supports war.

[GodlessBiker]

25. Will you support him against the Republican should he win the primary?

[Mojambo]

28. I support progressives, party label be damned.

But then I'm not officially a Democrat.

I also don't consider the prospect of stolen elections "nonsense."

[bklyncowgirl]

30. I'd close my eyes, hold my nose and think of Ted Kennedy

I may be wrong but if the Democrats take back the house Kennedy gets to be chairman of the judiciary committee.

That would be something of a consolation prize for having to vote for a pro-war Democrat much less the Senator who played kissyface with Bush after the State of the Union Address. YUCK.

Thank God I live in New Jersey.

[Totally Committed]

31. No... I don't support Republicans...

even ones with "D" after their names.

Never again.

TC

[endarkenment]

34. Let me put it this way:

if Lamont runs as an independent after losing to that asshole Lieberman I will not be sending Lamont any money. 'kay?

[gratuitous]

35. Lamont has pledged to support the Democratic nominee

Whoever it is, and I'll support the Democratic nominee. That's what good loyal Democrats do: Support the party.

Lieberman, on the other hand, hasn't said whether he'll support the party's nominee in the general election. Now, does that make him a . . . what was that word you used, WyoBlueDog? A hypocrite?

[Czolgosz]

36. There is a difference between a Democratic office holder advocating for a

non-Democrat and a Democratic voter splitting his or her ballot.

I vote for the candidate that most closely represents my values. In Texas, that's a Democrat 99% of the time (occasionally, a Green Party candidate will make it onto the ballot and he or she will have roughly the same chance of winning an election as the Democratic candidate and I might vote for them if the Democratic candidate is anti-choice or anti-labor or anti-marriage-equality or otherwise doesn't adequately represent my values). If I lived in Vermont or Connecticut, I might vote for candidates other than the Democratic candidate more often -- who knows?

With that said, I wouldn't agree to represent the Democratic Party (or the Green Party or the Republican Party) as the party's nominee for a race on the ballot and simultaneously publicly advocate an opponent of my party's candidate for another race on the ballot.

That's not hypocrisy. That's simply recognizing that a party's candidates owe the party a different duty of loyalty than an ordinary voter. A party's representatives can vote however they want, but they should not be publicly advocating for their own party's opposition in another race.

You don't think a party's nominees owe the party a higher duty of loyalty than a party's voters?

[The Magistrate]

37. Locking

The O.P. is no longer among us....