UPSET*** Lamont on CT ballot: over 32% of delegate vote UPDATE

[gasperc]

From a post over at DAilyKOS

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MyDD and a special Connecticut convention blog are live-blogging the delegate count for the Senate race. There are 1,607 delegates total, and Lamont has passed the 242 needed to get on the ballot without gathering signatures. As of right now, he's getting about 32% of the votes, far more than the 15% needed. Small towns are going heavily for Lamont. UPDATE: The Ned Lamont blog is reporting the current delegate count at 961-445 - 32% for Lamont with 88% of delegates having voted.
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This is a huge upset for Lieberman and makes Lamont's challenge very credible

from MYDD
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33.4% for Lamont
by Matt Stoller, Fri May 19, 2006 at 08:47:52 PM EST

1509 votes count
Ned Lamont - 505 (33.4%)
Joe Lieberman - 1004 (66.5%)

http://actblue.com/page/netrootscandidates

[joemurphy]

1. Great news! Maybe we can get rid of this massive millstone

around our necks that is Lieberman. Go Ned!

[Rose Siding]

2. 33.4%

:woohoo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1239940

[bemildred]

3. Yippee. nt

[Robbien]

4. From Lamont's Blog--34%

[madaboutharry]

5. Who are these people voting

for Lieberman? I swear, people just don't get it.

[Pale Blue Dot]

7. Most Democrats are not us.

They don't follow politics online, they don't read up on the candidates, they have no idea who Ned Lamont is. They follow the party line. The challange will be to increase Ned's profile, while highlighting the ways that Lieberman has shilled for Bush.

[madaboutharry]

12. I know what you say is true.

It galls me. Here in Arizona, you would not believe the number of democrats who voted for McCain for Senate.

[MissWaverly]

49. Yes, all they remember is Lieberman was Gore's running mate

[DODI]

9. It is all about the $$$$$. That is why the CT Dem Party

supports him and a lot of the towns (or should I say cities) do. It is all tied to the money that he brings to the Central State Party. I really don't think Hartford's delegate votes reflect how the people here in Hartford would vote -- judging from the reactions I have gotten from people when I was petitioning -- Joey ain't too popular.

[CTyankee]

52. Well, here in liberal New Haven I petitioned for Ned and found

some REAL strong Joe supporters. They claimed to be PERSONAL FRIENDS with Joe, which I do not doubt because I canvassed in Joe's neighborhood (and mine too) in Westville. They were nice to me, tho, and I to them (no arguing, just a smile and a nod as I left with my unsigned petition in hand). Some said they were members of his synogogue (which is nearby).

Actually, upon reflection I think that the people I canvassed, all liberal Dems, were great, even those who disagreed with me. I liked doing it because it showed that we Dems can differ, but we are so much more tolerant and considerate of others than in many parts of this country.

[NewJeffCT]

37. From what I understand

The suburbs & small towns went for Lamont much more strongly. The cities voted for Lieberman... kind of surprising in that our suburbs are generally more light blue to purple than the solid blue cities (there are rural areas & small towns that are consistenly pink or even red)

[CTLawGuy]

45. small towns and suburbs owe NOTHING to Lieberman

if people from big, machine-controlled cities were able to vote their conscience in secret, it would have been a much greater total for Ned.

[CTLawGuy]

44. Lieberman is extremely powerful in the state party

the chairwoman endorsed him, and said that he was basically "paying for the convention" himself. his henchmen have been arm-twisting delegates for about a month.

This is a problem with the Democratic party which needs to change.

[Pale Blue Dot]

6. I'll be working for Ned!

I become an official resident on Tuesday! :woohoo:

Hopefully this will send a very important message.

[NewJeffCT]

39. Congrats on the residency status

Hopefully, you'll stick around for a while!

[DearAbby]

8. Well, Hell Yeah!

[Bonhomme Richard]

10. Glad to hear it. I'm tired of sending.........

nasty e-mails to Joe.

[wakeme2008]

11. I guess Lieberman plan to freeze out Lamont voters isn't working

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1236764&mesg_id=1236764


:rofl:

[wakeme2008]

13. K&NOM

:) :) :)

[LiviaOlivia]

14. "Can you hear the Thunder?"

Bayh, Biden, From, Begala and Co.?

Congrats Ned!!! :bounce:

edit: spelling fix on Mr. DLC

[Lost-in-FL]

15. Lieberman said he would run as an independent

Do you see that happening? Just curious.

[Freddie Stubbs]

23. Please stop posting lies about Democrats

Leiberman never said that he would run as an independent.

[AnOhioan]

25. Joey is a Dem???

Could have fooled me

[Robbien]

26. Lieberman a Democrat? In Name Only.

And yes, he has never made the threat himself, he just let others make it for him. When confronted he would slyly say he wouldn't rule it out.

[eridani]

35. He said he'd consider it, though--

--right?

[NewJeffCT]

40. Yes, he did say he would consider it

That really killed any interest I had in him. I was thinking that at least Lieberman is keeping that seat in Democratic hands, as Ned Lamont might have a tough time if Nancy Johnson or Chris Shays got in the race against Lamont. However, since he didn't rule out going against the wishes of Democrats if he lost a primary, it revealed to me he was more interested in Joe Lieberman than he is in the Democratic Party.

[Usrename]

47. I think he is more interested in helping Bushco than opposing it.

How many "bi-partisan" whitewashes of Bush crimes has he been responsible for? His Katrina investigation is a crime in and of itself. The corruption is mind-numbing. 10,000 FEMA trailers sitting in Arkansas, and no one has to give back any money they stole.

Just calling any investigation by this Congress "bi-partisan" should be a crime.

http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=254829

He sounds proud of covering up the shame and horror of the Katrina aftermath. Move along folks, nothing to see here, nothing criminal in all the no-bid cronyism that is a trademark of this regime.

Bush vomits, Lieberman licks it up, no one is impressed that he is so tidy.

[kohodog]

41. He has not agreed to support the democratic nominee however.

We'll see if he starts a petition drive to run as an independant. Joe is incredibly arrogant and if you'vge ever spoken to him that is the first thing that comes across. Joe is huge is his own mind. Problem is he is part of the he-man warmonger, women haters club, and that doesn't sit well with some of us in CT.

[ihelpu2see]

42. When asked if he would rule out running as an ind. he said he could not

rule it out....

[CTLawGuy]

46. basically he did

he has refused to rule out running as an independent. That's basically a threat to run as an indy.

[SoCalDem]

16. Did Jolene cry?

[LiviaOlivia]

19. LOL

Maybe Dubya will kiss away the tears.

[femrap]

32. No upstanding woman dressed in pink

would EVER behave like Joe Lieberman.....It's like calling Lieberman a dog...you're giving the dog a bad name.

No only a short little, ugly, balding little man could be Joe Lieberman. Jolene has absolutely NOTHING to do with him.

[Arugula Latte]

53. Oh gawd. Why did I view that image before going to bed?

Nightmare time, here I come!

[MadMaddie]

17. Oh Happy Day!!

[Peace Patriot]

18. Congratulations to Ned Lamont and his supporters! This is great news!

25% of this illegitimately elected Congress is trying to represent 60% of the American people--who oppose every Bush policy, foreign and domestic, and have for several years--with the great albatross on their backs of these corporate military-industrial complex Democrats who so often serve the Bush junta agenda, in addition to the unfair, bullying behavior of the Bushite "pod people" in Congress, who deny Democrats committee meeting rooms and hold important votes in the middle of the night. This Congress was "selected" by Bushite-controlled electronic voting systems using 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code--code so secret that not even our secretaries of state are permitted to review it--and virtually no audit/recount controls--a benefice of the biggest crooks in Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney, in cahoots with Christopher Dodd, and their "Hack America's Vote Act." It's possible that even the 25% of truly representative Senators/House members were "selected" as token opposition. How can we know, with completely NON-TRANSPARENT elections? But this "minority" DOES try to serve the public common good, while the 75% including Lieberman serve Global Corporate and other foreign interests. This is the Traitor Congress, in my opinion. Total failure to uphold the Constitution, as per their oaths. Total failure to serve the interests of the people and the country, and to do their job as Congresspeople of providing "check and balances" on an out-of-control president. They need to be driven from Congress. And while the good 25% has their handicaps, we have ours--a non-transparent voting system that is obviously putting a 5% to 10% "thumb on the scales" for Bushites, warmongers and corporate shills.

We're in for a long hard struggle to restore democracy and get out country back. I'm so proud of and thankful for people like Ned Lamont, who are sacrificing so much on our behalf, with such Seabiscuit odds against them in this rigged system. It shouldn't be even close at this point, not with Bush approval under 30%, and Congress even lower--and a $10 TRILLION deficit, and MORE tax cuts for the rich last week, and MORE death in Iraq, and on and on. Credit the disinformation of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, and corporate/super-rich money drenching and corrupting the political process. Here's praying for an overwhelming turnout that will beat the machines! And here's a prayer that if we lose--or wherever we lose in a mixed bag, rigged election--we will come back, and come back, and come back, until we, the majority, have proper representation in Washington DC. We will not let this country die! And we will never, NEVER give up on our right to vote!

To Ned Lamont and supporters...

:patriot: :applause: :patriot: :patriot: :applause: :patriot: :patriot: :applause: :patriot:

[elfin]

20. Sent a few $ to Ned

About all I can do from Wisconsin --

[bvar22]

21. K&R

Message to:
Bush* appeasing, Corporate Money Grubbing, LABOR neglecting DLC "Centrist" Dems:


Your base is MAD AS HELL.
We are WATCHING every move you take, every VOTE you make!
Neglect us at your peril!

(Joe, Please pass this message on to Hillary.)


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans,
family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."--- Senator Paul Wellstone

In EVERY case, "Barriers to Trade" and "Restrictions on Corporations" were created to protect something valuable!

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

Mainstream polls consistently find that big majorities of Americans are not meek centrists, but overt, tub-thumping, FDR progressives who are seeking far more populist gumption and governmental action than any Democratic congressional leader or presidential contender has dared to imagine.
In recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels.
Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic party:

1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

8. Over 65% of all Americans believe that the Invasion of Iraq was a mistake.



Centrism is DEAD!!!!!




Cue the music:

Good-bye Joe,
he gotta go,
me oh my oh

He gotta go-pole the pirogue
down the bayou

His had his run,
He come undone
me oh my oh

Son of a gun,
we’ll have big fun on the bayou

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. Winning 2-1 is being 'upset?'

That seems like a Kucinichian victory to me.

[slampoet]

24. This is 33% of CT Democratic Delegates,

Note that everybody in this vote is a Party insider completely beholden to all the pressures that Lieber can bring as an incumbant. And a third of those completely turned their backs on Joe.

[Robbien]

27. Yes, and Joe had to get on the phone personally

and keep hounding the delegates for their votes.

Well now he will have to try and get the general public to believe voting for a pro-big business, pro-war candidate is something they should do. Have fun Joe.

[ihelpu2see]

43. Yup, Insiders said if it was a private ballot that it could have been a

greater delegate gain for Lamont... I think of it this way, Lieberman not only supported the war, still supports the war, supported activist right wing judges (Alito), has not spoken on the floor of the Senate to question the President's authority on illegal wire taps, torture, rendition etc. But he was willing to slap President Clinton on the hand for a private affair. Joe needed to stand up against the President's trouncing of the Constitution LONG AGO to get my support!!!

[bvar22]

50. When 33% of the "Incumbent Protection Network"...

..rebels against "The Incumbent", YES it IS a victory..

Weren't the DLC apologists laughingly predicting less than 10%!
Not laughing so hard now!

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Zorra]

28. Why are so many Democrats fed up with Joe?

Found this at kos:

Maybe you realized Sen. Joe Lieberman had to go when he voted for George Bush's war in Iraq. Or maybe it was for the poor job he did vetting Bush's FEMA appointee Mike Brown when he chaired FEMA's oversight committee. Or maybe it was his vote for cloture on a bankruptcy bill that will impoverish families unlucky enough to lose a job, or lose a wage-earner to illness or death, while enriching credit card companies. Or maybe it was his flirtations with privatization of Social Security and with joining the Bush administration. Or maybe it was his opposition to universal health care in 1994. Or maybe his flip flops on school vouchers. Or maybe his support of ruinous free trade agreements in Central America. Or maybe it was his countless appearances on Fox News, undercutting opposition to the Bush regime. Or maybe it was his op-ed piece in the Wall St. Journal with wild claims of success in Iraq. Or maybe it was his vote for the Defense of Marriage Act and his unenthusiastic support for civil unions for gays and lesbians. Or maybe his reluctance to condemn George Bush for misleading us into war, even though he loudly condemned Bill Clinton about misleading us about an extramarital affair. Or maybe it was his vote on giving huge tax cuts to oil companies in last year's energy bill. Or maybe it was kissing the President after his State of the Union speech last year.

Or maybe it was his vote yesterday to clear the path for Judge Samuel Alito to sit on the Supreme Court of the United States. Twenty five Democrats sought to have an extensive debate on the merits of a judge who would roll back Roe protection, a judge who is a proponent of giving limitless power to President Bush, a judge who thinks it just fine to give broad police powers to strip search 12 year old girls. Predictably, Joe Lieberman wasn't one of them.

Rather than stew about this loss, there is something you can do to change the way our country is run. There is a candidate, Ned Lamont, who is considering entering the August Democratic primary for US Senate. Ned is a successful businessman, comes from a progressive background (his uncle led the fight against McCarthyism in the 1950's), is against the war, against the culture of corruption and for turning our country around.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/1/12519/04757

[bleedingheart]

29. I hope Lamont unseats Joementum...

I know many PA people who have donated to Lamont's campaign!
I think that if he ends up on the ballot I will send a few bucks his way too!

[Breeze54]

36. He IS on the ballot! Let the race begin!! n/t

:)

[brooklynite]

30. Anyone know what happened at the Republican Convention?

This is not expected to be a major issue in the race, but one of the two Republican candidates works down the hall from me.

[OctOct1]

31. WFSB Just said it is tomorrow night

[norml]

33. Democratic Rival Forces Lieberman Into a Primary (NYT)

Democratic Rival Forces Lieberman Into a Primary

By WILLIAM YARDLEY and STACEY STOWE
Published: May 20, 2006


HARTFORD, May 19 — A businessman with little political experience has forced Senator Joseph I. Lieberman into an August primary, surprising even his own supporters by winning more than twice the number of delegates he needed at the State Democratic Party's nominating convention Friday night.

Ned Lamont, a cable television executive from Greenwich who has opposed Senator Lieberman largely over the senator's support for the war in Iraq, won 505 of the 1,509 delegates who cast votes — about 33 percent, compared with the 15 percent required to force a primary.

Mr. Lieberman, by winning two-thirds of the vote, however, easily won the party's endorsement.

Cheers erupted as Mr. Lamont swept several small towns, where he typically fared better than he did in larger cities like Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven, which have entrenched Democratic establishments. Some supporters of Mr. Lamont said they had hoped to win only the necessary 15 percent of the vote and many said they were thrilled to have won more.

In an appearance after the vote, Mr. Lamont said his showing would resonate beyond Connecticut. "Thirty-three percent is telling the people in Washington, we want change," he said.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/20/nyregion/20connecticut.html

[wiley]

34. Very Good News!

It's difficult to support the shoe wipe for the Republican Party. He has to bring more to the table than staunch support and defense of Israel. Who in the Senate isn't pro-Israel? Funny how some here readily forgive and even adulate as sexual icons other Democrats, like Kerry or Edwards, who were also pro-IWR. Yeah, we're all sorry that issue isn't working out, but there's a lot of dead and maimed people, including our heroic men and women in uniform, who deserve more than an apology.

[w4rma]

38. Hmm, maybe Lamont can potentially win this Senate seat this term. (nt)

[Guaranteed]

48. WOW- people were only expecting around that 15%. nt

[BuyingThyme]

51. Lieberman-Harris 2008.