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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:47 AM
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My hopeful and perfect Democratic ticket for 2008 would be........
......Al Gore and John Kerry. I'm not sure if they would agree to run together but it would, imho, the perfect unbeatable ticket.

Al Gore has already had domestic and foreign policy experience and he was part of the Clinton administration, that means world leaders already have some knowledge of his style.

John Kerry had military experience, among other things, and that would draw those military votes.

Best of all Al Gore is from the south somewhere and John Kerry is from the north. So we would have the different parts of the country covered.

I just think these two would be an unbeatable team. I'm by no means saying there aren't other really great choices out there, but I think these two guys in particular are so totally angry at Bush and neocons in general that they would pull out all the stops.:rant: There would be no sacred ground to them. :toast:

If you disagree with my choice here by all means tell me about it. Try to be nice though,:grouphug: we don't want those neocons lurking here wondering if they are still stuck over at their old hang outs.:puke:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:49 AM
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1. We need to be thinking 2006. It is coming up on us shortly. 2008 is
irrelevant right now, regardless of everyone trying to push Hillary down our collective throats.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:14 AM
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20. I agree with you but I also think the 2006 elections are.......
.....pretty much in the bag unless Democrats/Liberals decide to just up and purposely give the elections away. People are realizing there are voting machine issues, Bush's Criminal Family issues, and on and on so they are ready to do some corrective voting.

I would be willing to be that if there are voting irregularities in 2006 people will scream out much quicker.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:50 AM
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2. I'm just going to be crass here and say
2 x Loser + loser.

I'm thinking Hillary/Obama. With the influx of blacks running under the republican ticket this year, and the uncle-tommish types Bush has employed, on the surface it is appearing to a lot of black people that Republicans are becoming their party. This couldn't be further from the truth, but in any case, Obama would give a fresh, intelligent, well-spoken, black face. Besides that, he actually seems to be a Democrat, and may have a good influence on Hillary, who is a centrist at best.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:57 AM
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4. Hillary/Obama ? What are you smoking?
Yeah, that's a guaranteed winner! :eyes:

The repubs can pick some drooling moron out of a nursing home and he'd win simply because the media will have excoriated the Dem ticket like a pack of pirhana's .... and every fundie and KKK nutjob in the country - dead or alive - will show up on election day to vote AGAINST "the Clinton bitch" and "that black guy from Chicago".
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:59 AM
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6. Hillary's the loser in a presidential race.
No matter how you approach it, the only thing the woman has in her favor is tons of corporate cash.

Progressives won't vote for her, liberals won't vote for her, a lot of men and quite a few women have a kneejerk antipathy toward her, and it's a really terrible idea to leave the country in the control of only 2 families for 24+ years.

You're sure as hell not going to get the miraculous crossover votes that the DLC keeps dangling in front of the party's nose.

Find somebody else, please, and try to figure out a way to keep that massive ego of hers in check so that she'll stay in the Senate.
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:02 AM
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7. @@
I'm thinking Hillary/Obama.

Not a chance.... do that and you have insured a repuke victory. We are making some gains in the red states and may actually win a couple. Run this team and forget the gains, might as well run Beelzebub.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:05 AM
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9. They may both be good but unfortunately........
.....I don't think they've got a chance. In their own ways they are both very polarizing.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:25 AM
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25. Why is Obama polarizing?
Anytime I've ever heard the man speak, he's quite the opposite. If anything, he's a unifying force, not a polarizing one.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:05 AM
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10. Oboy oboy oboy! Two more Senators. Just exactly what we need
in 2008. Maybe we can get Jomentum to take another run at it too.

Me, I'd like to see a Clark/Bloomberg ticket. Clark could provide the leadership, Bloomberg could pay for the campaign out of petty cash. Talk about shortcircuiting the lobbyists.

NYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:54 AM
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3. Gore/Feingold
I don't need to explain "why Gore?". :applause:

So I'll explain my Veep choice a little better:
Feingold, IMO, would provide a little more 'chummy-ness' - Mr. Charming Midwestern Guy - he's a tad more youthful than Al at this point, and also isn't seen as 'too smart' (although he IS wickedly intelligent).

A Veep nod for Russ would pretty much guarantee that the party is turning away from its current mid-leaning stance and back toward populism, but still pragmatically. It also gives him up to 8 years working within the WH to plant himself as a defacto Nominee when Gore's terms are up.


Plus, he's a homeboy from WISCONSIN !!! :applause:
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:57 AM
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5. OK, I could definitely go with that choice too, I........
......forgot about Feingold for a minute but yes you are right. He would be GREAT. Good choice!!!!:toast:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:02 AM
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8. Neither, and I respect both
They're carrying too much baggage, and I don't mean for just the gen election. I don't know who I'll feel enthusiastic about in 2008, but I'd love to see Obama on the ticket as candidate for VP. I have a deep admiration for what Sen. Edwards has been doing; he's virtually the only politician around who's focusing on the plight of the impoverished.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:22 AM
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11. Spitzer/Fitzgerald
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:34 AM
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12. Well they'd be a hell of a lot better than the inept and disconnected
George W. Bush and his sinister pack of liars and cheaters and crooks.

They've both beat Bush before, if you believe as I do that Florida was boobytrapped in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.

Both have a very evolved sense of public service. That's what I love about them, especially in contrast to Dubya and Dick. Frankly, the Democrats have some terrific candidates for 2008, while the GOP has a macabre line-up of thugs.

And both could become interested in the 2008 nomination. I think Gore would prevail in the primaries over Kerry, although I personally like them both a lot.

I'm in doubt as to whether Gore could carry Tennessee and West Virginia this time. He lost them both last time, and with them, the election. That is, the election that he won if you believe Bush's fixers rigged Florida.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:43 AM
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13. Here are some possible thoughts of mine:
I'd like to see the possibility of the following tickets:

Gore/Warner
Feingold/Warner

Those are the two that readily come to my mind. I only want Gore to run provided he keeps his current attitude and way of dealing with things. I do not want to see a return to his 2000 personality. He is a strong, familiar face, and if he keeps his current attitude then he can provide strong leadership as well. Feingold might also be another possibility.

Warner is more conservative, but I think if he's on the ticket he can deliver Virginia, and that could swing the election. Warner is pretty much, in my opinion, a moderate Republican, but he is good on economic policies and might be able to dig us out of the hole we are in.

I wouldn't want to see Warner at the top of the ticket, I don't think he's charismatic or liberal enough to excite the base. We need a strong liberal or a strong progressive at the top of the ticket. Gore is really the only 'known' guy running around at the moment.

John Kerry isn't it because he has trouble articulating where he stands on issues. He isn't a plain talking guy. He's a policy guy. The American People don't understand policy or the details. It's too complicated, and that's why Bush appeals to them. If Bush say's he is "Pro-Life" then people understand he's against abortion, even though the details of that he's in favor of abortions in the cases of incest, rape or in the danger of the mothers health. If Kerry says he's "Pro-Choice" he also goes into detail of his stance, and Americans quickly lose interest. Bush says he's against gay marriage, but he doesn't say he's for Civil Unions. Kerry's stance is pretty identical (against gay marriage, in favor of civil unions, but against a Constitutional Amendment). So on and so forth.

Democrats really need to learn to answer questions in roughly seven seconds, because that's all they are going to get with a sound bite. They can use their website to have more detailed information.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:48 AM
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14. Al Gore ran on lower taxes, smaller government, picked Joe Lieberman as
his VP, and valued the opinions of Douglas Feith.

I think we can do a little better.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:55 AM
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17. Lieberman is not even a serious choice but someone suggested........
......Gore and Feingold and I could definitely go for that.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:05 AM
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19. Gore and Feingold is a fantasy. He wouldn't run with Feingold for the same
reasons he picked Joe Lieberman, trusts Doug Feith, agrees with Lawrence Summers and Rubin on economic policy, and believes in low taxes and small government. It would be so incredibly inconsistent with his political philosophy to date that one shouldn't trust him if he did pick Feingold.

Gore has had an entire life to show us who he is and what he believes in. I think we can do better.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:49 AM
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15. Feingold and someone. Warner? Obama? I can't decide. nt
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 09:51 AM
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16. Clark/Feingold
~or~

Clark/Dean

~or~

Clark/Kucinich
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 10:01 AM
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18. With all due repect, I think they are both seen as ..........
.....being a bit too radical to get by the undecided crowd. I'm not saying there is a factual basis for that view but I think the view exists none the less.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:02 AM
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21. Clark is seen as radical?
Where?

Even though he's absolutely NOT DLC, the DLC crowd tries to claim him because they like him so much. Liberals adore him because he'll get on national television and say he's a progressive and even right-leaning indies like him because they think he's a moderate (having spent a lifetime in the military makes one SEEM that way).

I don't know of a soul - save ultra-wingnuts - who think Clark's a "radical."

:rofl: that's funny. Clark - a radical. :rofl:
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:31 AM
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26. esley Clark would in my opinion be a good choice as well so...
.....you can draw in the claws now. I was just pointing out that some may find him a bit radical. On the other hand, I think I may have also indicated I didn't necessarily share that view.

Thanks to the Bush Mob we will definitely have to have someone in the WH who is strong on military knowledge and know how to possibly step in and correct the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld f... ups.

One thing for sure, the left of the middle crowd has a wealth of figures to choose from that would all be great candidates for the WH.

The issue in 08 will be to have a candidate that can unite the left as well as the undecided and even some from the right. PERSONALLY, I WANT A DEMOCRAT TICKET THAT IS SO OVERWHELMINGLY PEOPULAR THAT ALL THE VOTING BALLOT ISSUES CAN'T GET IN THE WAY AND STEAL ANOTHER ELECTION.

That is my goal and that is my only goal.:bounce: :applause:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:12 AM
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22. Gore and Kucinich or Gore and Edwards ....? nt
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:14 AM
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23. Gore/Obama
I think this would be a very good ticket.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:18 AM
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24. Schweitzer/Feingold
n/t
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:45 AM
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27. Why not just drag out Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale and make them
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 11:46 AM by Rowdyboy
run again. You'd have a better class of leadership if you really want to revive old careers.

Personally, I'd really like to see a couple of new faces-no Gores, Clintons, or Kerry's need apply.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:53 AM
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29. Who would you suggest that could ....................
.....would have a good chance of winning?? Keep in mind that the Democratic tiket will have to draw together all Democrat/liberal votes as well as those undecided, and even some from the right of the middle. I agree that Clinton definitely could not do that.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:47 AM
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28. Gore & Anyone
I adore that man! He's so smart
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:56 AM
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30. I have to agree with you and someone suggested......
....Gore and Feingold. I think they'd make a great team too but I'm worried about those that would oppose the Jewish thing. I definitely don't share the concern but I ant this election to be so lopesided in our favor that no ballot issue can steal it from us.
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