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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:37 PM
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Chris Matthews praises temperment of Cheney as better than Howard Dean
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 01:39 PM by Eric J in MN
On his NBC broadcast television show "Chris Matthews" just now, Matthews said it's fine that Dick Cheney takes extreme positions on energy matters and brought us an elective war but is portrayed as a moderate based on his lethargic speaking style, and that Howard Dean was a centrist governor but is portrayed is extreme based on his energetic speaking style.

Matthews said that if you want to be President, you have to act Presidential.
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my comments:

When Ronald Reagan said, "I paid for this microphone," while campaigning wasn't he showing aggressiveness?

Is it Presidential to say, "I paid for this microphone?" Reagan got praised when he stood up for his right to speak.

Howard Dean got bashed for telling a heckler to sit down, and of course, for saying "yah," during part of a speech to supporters.

Chris Matthews played the "yah" clip perhaps more than anyone.

When George W. Bush called a reporter a name during the 2000 campaign, why wasn't that clip played a zillion times?

Because Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush are Republicans, Howard Dean is a Democrat, and the media has rightwing bias.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:38 PM
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1. Yeah I suppose temperment is more important than integrity,
honesty
and policy.

NOT!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:41 PM
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3. I like Dean's temperment. I want Democrats to speak energetically. nt
nt
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:39 PM
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2. But Cheney is barely even human! Robots always have better temperments
:grr:

Passion is not a freakish emotion! Signs of being human is not a bad thing. I hate this.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:47 PM
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12. When a Republican shows passion, like Reagan saying,"I paid for this micr
When a Republican shows passion, like Reagan saying,"I paid for this microphone," the pundits applaud, and treat an unremarkable line as something grand.

When a Democrat shows passion, the pundits say he proved he has a temperment problem and is unfit to be President.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:41 PM
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4. Media whore Matthews
Still on his knees.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:43 PM
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7. Thing is, is this the worst thing about Dean?
the fact he's energetic? :eyes: I don't get how pathetically shallow and biased the american media is. No wonder they don't get any respect.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:43 PM
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5. Give Dean more credit
He didn't just say 'yah' to supporters.

He said - 'YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW'

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:49 PM
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13. Dean was ending a long list of states with an exclamation. (nt)
nt
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:06 PM
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20. In fairness, you should listen to the Diane Sawyer retraction
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:08 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
and YEaaaaawwwww is far less harmless to America than "Bring 'em on."

I am no fan of Howard Dean's and believe he does backpedal more than his advocates are willing to admit, and believe he is FAR more conservative than some of our other choices, and believe he is LESS for the average person than he claims to be, but when the media is free to play a false story over 700 times to the disadvantage of the electoral process while not practicing similar equity with the current whitehouse occupant, thereby BRAINWASHING people into believeing things are as they present them when they CLEARLY are not...we have a very big problem.

It is incumbent on ALL Democrats to denounce this blatantly false story and the resultant GORING or McCaining of a candidate based on an outright lie.

I'd rather Dean be taken to task for his other inauthenticities such as claiming Kerry is a "do-nothing" senator when in fact he has authored or co-authored more than 350 bills in his career. So WHAT if a different compromise version was passed....there is nor doubt in MY mind his versions of bills were used for leverage. That is what the OLD version of bi-partisan used to represent.
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texasmom Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:43 PM
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6. Chris Matthews is a
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 01:43 PM by texasmom
fine person to discuss others' temperaments. There is some kind of strange irony there.

Watching him interview Al Sharpton Thursday night reminded me why I don't watch him.

They're just dying for us to nominate a bland candidate so they can tear him apart like they did Gore.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:45 PM
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8. He's an idiot
Teddy Roosevelt was firey, didn't hurt him.
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:45 PM
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9. why do you care what Chris Matthews thinks?
is the man not entitled to opinions?

to refresh your memory, he also said the following:

(about Howard Dean) "We've got an honest man here"

(to Joe Trippi) "I respect you a lot."

(about Cheney) "He went down to the CIA and shaped the intelligence."

It's easy to find quotes to push your opinion of someone... but keep it in context. Yes, the media has a bias... everyone thinks it is biased for the other side... the right wingers think it's liberal (calling CNN the Clinton News Network) and liberals think it's right wing bias.

But Chris Matthews isn't some right winger, he has his own opinions... he worked for the Carter campaign back in the day!

plus, the Daily Show with Jon Stewart was playing the Dean yelp... David Letterman (who makes fun of Bush all the time) was playing it... Everyone was playing it. Don't be mad at the media, be mad at Dean for making a mistake. Personally, I agree with the strategists (on both sides) who ripped on Dean. He deserves the criticism. And this is coming from someone who thinks Dean would be a great president.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:58 PM
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16. Daily Show played it once, and treated if fairly.
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:05 PM by Eric J in MN
"The Daily Show" played the Dean-clip once, and treated if fairly, expressing mild surprise that the speech was upbeat for third place.

"Hardball" played the clip a zillion times. Matthews himself said at the end of last week, "we're wallowing in it."

Every show should have treated the clip like The Daily Show, playing it once at most.


Regarding your implication that Matthews sometimes makes good points, yes, he does.

However, the only other person who regulary states his opinion on MSNBC today is former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough.

So if Matthews is a moderate, then each night on MSNBC we have a moderate giving opinions and a rightwinger (Scarborough) giving opinions. Shouldn't MSNBC have a leftwinger on each night giving opinions?

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:47 PM
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10. Excuse me, but I really need to go
:puke: after reading that.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:47 PM
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11. Cheney is a cold blooded sociopath
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 01:49 PM by Capn Sunshine
I should hope his "temperment" is more subdued. You can't sneak up and kill people if they see you coming.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:49 PM
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14. That goes a long way in explaining
Matthews' effusive appreciation of Clinton's comsummately mannered and even-keeled public persona...

...wait...
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:52 PM
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15. Cheney's temperament is better for badgering intelligence analysts,
installing himself from the Houston suburb of Wyoming as VP, hawking conquered oil to his jackal friends, and similar patriotic pastimes.

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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:00 PM
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17. Cyborg vs flesh
Cheney is a cyborg. Robots have no emotion.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:01 PM
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18. Tweety also said that Cheney could beat all of the Dem candidates
I don't know what he was smoking! :smoke:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:05 PM
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19. Bring 'em on!

Though Dick may have to campaign from his bunker in a federal prison.


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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:06 PM
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21. Really? If Cheney ever Presidential candidate, I don't think he'll win nt
nt
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:25 PM
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27. Yes he really said that. And yes, Cheney would lose
BIG TIME! He's so creepy and robotic -- who would trust him?

Yeah, my jaw seriously dropped when I heard Matthews say that. Unbelievable.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:08 PM
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23. self deleted
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:09 PM by saywhat
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:25 PM
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28. Cheney? He's not exactly the most loved Bushista
That's the dumbest analysis I've heard in a while.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:07 PM
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22. Chris Mathews is so taken with his own........
celebrity, he can't think straight. It clouds his judgment which was questionable to begin with. Look how stupid he acts when that guy from SNL is on his show. He is positively giddy over him. Then he had a segment on with people from Sundance that were previewing a film and Chris said he couldn't wait to see it to see if he was in it!! God what a dork! Apparently it was a documentary or something about politics.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:59 PM
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29. So true!
I saw that bit with the SNL guy...I was really embarrassed for Chris Matthews. He was acting like a giggling school girl.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:09 PM
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24. LOLOLOLOLOL
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:13 PM by BillyBunter
Matthews was one of the original whores for Dean. He used to fawn over Dean's scrawny little forearms, and publicly stated that he was a Dean supporter, that he loved Dean's story of a small state governor coming on to challenge Bush. That was when the Republicans still thought they could finesse Dean into being the Democratic nominee. What a difference a few weeks make.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:11 PM
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25. You can say that again!
"Because Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush are Republicans, Howard Dean is a Democrat, and the media has rightwing bias."


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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:13 PM
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26. perception vs reality
Cheney and the Bush Crime Family portray themselves as the experienced, soothing, "grown-ups". In reality they are incompetent fools who have failed in every way. However the Matthews', Russerts, and Woodruffs of the world fall for their act every time.
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