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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:52 PM
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Hitchens: What Reason Do We Have to Trust the State to Know Best?
Although I am named in this suit in my own behalf, I am motivated to join it by concerns well beyond my own. I have been frankly appalled by the discrepant and contradictory positions taken by the Administration in this matter. First, the entire existence of the NSA's monitoring was a secret, and its very disclosure denounced as a threat to national security.

We are, in essence, being asked to trust the state to know best. What reason do we have for such confidence? The agencies entrusted with our protection have repeatedly been shown, before and after the fall of 2001, to be conspicuous for their incompetence and venality. No serious reform of these institutions has been undertaken or even proposed: Mr George Tenet (whose underlings have generated leaks designed to sabotage the Administration's own policy of regime-change in Iraq, and whose immense and unconstitutionally secret budget could not finance the infiltration of a group which John Walker Lindh could join with ease) was awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

I believe the President when he says that this will be a very long war, and insofar as a mere civilian may say so, I consider myself enlisted in it. But this consideration in itself makes it imperative that we not take panic or emergency measures in the short term, and then permit them to become institutionalised. I need hardly add that wire-tapping is only one of the many areas in which this holds true.

The better the ostensible justification for an infringement upon domestic liberty, the more suspicious one ought to be of it. We are hardly likely to be told that the government would feel less encumbered if it could dispense with the Bill of Rights. But a power or a right, once relinquished to one administration for one reason, will unfailingly be exploited by successor administrations, for quite other reasons. It is therefore of the first importance that we demarcate, clearly and immediately, the areas in which our government may or may not treat us as potential enemies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christopher-hitchens/what-reason-do-we-have-to_b_13985.html

Don't shoot the messenger on this one. :shrug:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:55 PM
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1. Hitchy-witchy is 'enlisted' in the war insofar as as mere
CIVILIAN can be. :grr:

HEY CHRIS - ENLIST!!

What an idiot, jerk off, son-of-a-witch!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:55 PM
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I don't trust anyone who flip-flops this quickly
And remember, he's done it TWICE now.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:55 PM
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2. Drunken weathervane. -eom
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:57 PM
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3. Christopher Hitchens:
Still a court Jester.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:07 PM
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4. We can count Christpher Hitchens and the Fox News legal analyst
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 10:08 PM by Eric J in MN
as unlikely allies.

Judge Andrew Napolitano, a legal analyst for Fox News’ “Dayside” program, said December 19, 2005:

"When Congress enacted the FISA act (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in ‘77, it also made it criminal for anyone in this country to use the power of the government to wiretap without a search warrant. It made it easy to get the search warrant with the FISA law, but it said you have to get the search warrant.

…The president has violated the law."


http://www.speakspeak.org/speak-blog/2005/12/19/bush-has-violated-the-law-fox-news-legal-analyst-says/
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:31 PM
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5. Is Hitchens afraid the NSA will find out he's a drunken pig?
Shit, I could've told them that.
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:40 PM
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6. LOL!!
:rofl: :rofl:
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:27 PM
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7. So, basically he's saying we shouldn't relinquish rights to the Bush
Administration, because some other administration might exploit it?

Wow.

Have another drink, Chris.

I guess we can trust Bush afterall, it's the Presidents that follow that might do something really bad with all that shiny new executive power.

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