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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:38 PM
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Abu Ghraib Prison Photos ???
Whatever happened to this case?
Who is stonewalling this?
Will they ever see the light of day?
What about the democrat leaders on this? They saw all of them did they not?
Why are they staying silent on this case?

Here's a link for the photos that have been released, I just looked at them and got angry about this all over again!

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

We can not let this go!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:41 PM
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1. Good question
Now they will be fighting tooth and nail to keep them hidden.
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:42 PM
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2. i know a judge had ruled that they had to release some more...
but that is tied up in appeals right now. that's all they're gonna do......keep rolling out the red tape till people forget.....so you are right, we can not let this go.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:04 PM
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4. After the last deadline
I spoke to an ACLU rep who told me the release was tied up in a "Glomar" issue--by stating whether the DOD has or doesn't have certain documents, they would be revealing classified information.

In short, more bullshit.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:03 PM
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3. That is exactly why this is being stonewalled
"I just looked at them and got angry about this all over again!"

They got away with claiming torture was "a few bad apples". They've skated on the "president can do anything in a time of war" rationale, the multiple lies told by multiple people in the War on Terror, that national security mandates they can violate decency and law.

What ever happened to Craig Murray, the UK Amb. to Uzbekistan's disclosures that we had supported torture including boiling people alive for not renouncing their faith and torturing children in front of their parents? It sounds impossible, or at least in a previous America - before the Whatever it Takes took over.

There are the larger rendition issues raised by allies afraid of being made complicit... Stonewall? The Mother of All Stonewalls. America would rather turn away than look at what it has become.



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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:08 PM
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5. They were a victim of Katrina.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:15 PM
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6. Kick. I used to follow it closely now I don't know where to pick...
...up the thread again.

PB
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:34 PM
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7. update from ACLU
Just spoke to an ACLU rep on the phone, and:

1) the DOD has stated their intent to appeal again;
2) the ball is in Judge Hellerstein's court (waiting for him to set schedule for filing briefs)

z-z-z-z
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:47 PM
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8. 12/20/05: Can the ACLU pry more Abu Ghraib photos from the government?
Picture This
Can the ACLU pry more Abu Ghraib photos from the government?
By Tara McKelvey
Issue Date: 12.20.05

It’s pouring rain outside American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) staff attorney Jameel Jaffer’s office on an October afternoon, making the room dark and chilly, and Jaffer holds up a legal document so a visitor can get a better look. In the document, a 23-page affidavit filed on July 28 in the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York in Manhattan, General Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, explains why releasing additional Abu Ghraib photos through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) is a bad idea. Yet there’s little to be seen of Myers’ argument on the page -- regardless of the lighting in the room.


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Thomas S. Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, argues that the basis for withholding the images is anti-democratic. Says Blanton, “It’s one of the most creative arguments for covering up official misbehavior the government has ever come up with: ‘Because the government’s behavior is so reprehensible, it must be hidden.’ It turns the whole argument for open government on its head.”


http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=10643




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