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rodbarnett Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:19 AM
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Dean falls farther behind Kerry
With no victory on Tuesday, questions will mount

How can a presidential contender spend $40 million and not have any victories?

That’s the question Howard Dean now confronts. Dean, who has fallen well behind Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry in Demo Derby’s current ranking, is at risk of becoming the John Connally of the 2004 campaign.

Connally, the Democrat-turned-Republican who served as Treasury Secretary under President Nixon and ran for the GOP nomination in 1980, was the last contender to raise the most money in the year prior to an election and yet not win his party’s nomination.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4101849/

comment: seems grim
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:21 AM
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1. I know this is unrelated, but was Conally the same guy
who was riding with Kennedy and got shot himself?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:21 AM
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2. I think so
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:59 AM
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5. Yes..
He was.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:22 AM
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3. Heh, Dean's site just made $20000 in the last hour.
Thought that actually deserved its own post, but whatever.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:25 AM
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4. his supporters will bitch a storm soon
where did our $40million go, on balance though, we democrats need to make sure that all these people that Dean energized to support him don't get marginalized or dismissed.
we'll need every last one of them for the rest of the year!!!!!!
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IowaBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:15 PM
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7. Will they go "Nader" on us.
I appreciate their youthful exhuberance, but reading their posts in here, they seem to lack the judgement to make wise decisions for the future of the party. So much of it is attack driven.

I know in Iowa, that kind of stuff drove people nut, and drove people away from Dean. It just gets so far over the top.

--Brian

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:19 PM
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8. This 42 year-old will vote ABB should Dean not win the nomination
but will not contribute to ABB's GE campaign fund, especially if that nominee voted for the Iraq war. I'll keep donating to Dean and MoveOn.org so that they can remain a vibrant movement within the Dem Party to keep pushing the Dem Party back to the center. I can support these groups whole heartily. However, I will work with my Dem Town Comm with GE work, no matter who the Prez nominee is. I just won't give up my spare time directly to ABB.
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:02 PM
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6. Wrong about Connally
The last Presidential candidate to lead in fundraising before the primaries and not win a state was Phil Gramm in 1996. He had $20 million in the bank, and got about one vote per $million in Iowa.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:21 PM
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9. sorry,
Connally got only 1 delegate for all the millions he spent in 1980. Dean already has over 100. In NH he got 9 delegates to Kerry's 13. He will score some delegates on 2/3 and then come back and win Michigan on 2/7.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:27 PM
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10. Grim indeed.
Yep, all of us Dean supporters are just wringing our hands and writhing on floors -- it's pandemonium and hysteria for us!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! :eyes:
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