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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:47 AM
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Condi's Trail of Lies (photo of evil condi, and good summary of OS trip)
By Sidney Blumenthal

Condoleezza Rice's contradictory, misleading and outright false statements about the U.S. and torture have taken America's moral standing -- and her own -- to new depths.
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Rice has made memorable statements in the past. There was her appearance before the 9/11 Commission, in which she had trouble recalling the CIA's Presidential Daily Briefing of Aug. 6, 2001, titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US," and dismissed its significance. There were her many assertions about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons: "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." There was her attack on Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism chief on the National Security Council, for his disclosure that both she and the president did not regard al-Qaida as an urgent threat before Sept. 11, 2001, as a "scurrilous allegation." But her remarks on torture may turn out to be her most unforgettable full-length speech, tainting her tenure as secretary of state as indelibly as Colin Powell's speech making the case for the Iraq war before the United Nations blotted him.

"Torture is a term that is defined by law," said Rice. "We rely on our law to govern our operations." She neglected to explain that "torture" as she used it has been defined by presidential findings to include universally defined methods of torture, such as waterboarding, for which U.S. soldiers were court-martialed in 1902 and 1968 specifically on the basis of having engaged in torture.

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Since 2003, Rice has repeatedly told representatives of Human Rights Watch and other similar organizations that the U.S. does not torture. There is no trail of memos tracing her involvement in the titanic struggle over U.S. torture policy between Powell and the senior military on one side and Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft's Justice Department on the other. Was the national security advisor completely out of the loop? On Nov. 19., ABC News reported, "Current and former CIA officers tell ABC News there is a presidential finding, signed in 2002, by President Bush, Condoleezza Rice and then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, approving the (harsh interrogation) techniques, including waterboarding."

That technique has its origin in the Spanish Inquisition. Indeed, in 1490, a baptized Christian who was a secret Jew, a converso named Benito Garcia, was subjected to water torture. The process drew out of him a confession of the ritual murder of a Christian child by crucifixion to get his blood for a magic ceremony to halt the Inquisition and bring about Jewish control. The incident greatly helped whip up the fear that led to the expulsion of the Jews in 1492, as described by James Reston Jr. in his new book, "Dogs of God: Columbus, the Inquisition, and the Defeat of the Moors."

Since the Inquisition, the method of waterboarding has been little refined. But Rice, like Bush, says we did not and will not torture anymore.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,389224,00.html
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:02 AM
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1. Why this evil freak has high poll numbers is beyond me
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,551966,00.jpg

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's trip to Europe was intended to foster better relations. Instead, she's leaving with even more questions about the relationship.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:26 PM
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6. Because no one is willing to go after her lies.
Boxer did a good job at the confirmation, but remember how all the other gutless, panzy-asses gave her a pass.

What about her 'no one could have known' statement? What about the OTHER 52 warnings in PDB's? She was an accomplace to mass murder of US citizens long before the Iraq war started.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:11 AM
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2. Leak that 2002 Presidential Finding someone
The Spirit of America is calling you. Who will be the courageous patriot in this dark hour, and tell the truth to the citizens of the nation?

We are waiting for you -- whoever may have a copy -- to fulfill your basic moral imperative: tell the truth.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:05 AM
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3. I wonder if it would help?
I suppose it would now that people are taking a more critical look at Bush co. But it would probably make more of a difference to people because he lied about it. US polls are showing support for torture. How can this be??
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:09 AM
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4. Support for torture surely cannot be the country I believe in.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:21 PM
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5. That woman is just impossible to believe.
Ever since the "we had no idea they would fly airplanes into buildings" statement, her credibility and integrity have been, shall we say, besmirched. And she is arrogant and ill mannered with people who could be, should be, our loyal allies, as well.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:35 PM
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7. Someone in the "bowels of the Admin" will take the bullet for her, like
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 02:35 PM by Supersedeas
Hadley did, and then they will BOTH get promoted.

Would a Medal of Freedom look goooood in the Dominatrix motif?
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