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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:23 PM
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Rice puts her big foot in her big mouth ...
During all the Watergate fun, a phrase that became very popular was a "non-denial denial" ... well, Condi's latest is right up there with some of the great Watergate classics ...

the issue: the transporting of US detainees to secret prisons outside the US for the purpose of torturing them to extract information ...

is the US doing this in spite of its denials to the contrary?? according to Rice, the US only ensures no torture will occur "where appropriate" ... also notice that Rice stated the US seeks assurances the detainees will not be tortured ... and yet cheney continues to argue that torture should be allowed ... just whose assurance is Rice suggesting she's obtaining? ... isn't it the US that is doing the torturing?? ... here's what Rice had to say on the subject:


source: http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/opinion/13357681.htm

As Europeans continue to question the Bush administration about allegations that detainees are being held in secret prisons in undisclosed foreign countries, American officials appear to have a bad case of double-speak, coupled with severe symptoms of evasion.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, while on a four-day trip to Europe this week, is the latest administration spokesperson trying to explain how terrorism suspects -- including those who have been sent to other nations -- are being treated.

Rice, refusing to confirm or deny CIA-run prisons in other countries, admitted that some suspects have been transported to other nations but adamantly denied that this was so that detainees could be tortured.

"The United States does not use the airspace or airports of any country for the purpose of transporting a detainee to a country where he or she will be tortured," Rice said before departing for Europe. "The United States has not transported anyone, and will not transport anyone, to a country when we believe he will be tortured. Where appropriate, the United States seeks assurances that transferred persons will not be tortured."
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:44 PM
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1. Give it up Condi! Give it up! nt
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:22 AM
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2. Well, she didn't say
that the detainees weren't tortured at the airport...
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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 03:29 AM
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3. Having sent Dorothy on a Rendition...
Having sent Dorothy on a rendition to a secret location, leaving Toto alone to howl piteously in Oz, Condi was last seen looking for her broom so that she could leave the area before it started to rain and she had to worry seriously about melting.

She says less with more words than just about any other official in the Bush administration, except for Rummy. Imagine asking them both a question at the same time.:crazy:

Since she knows full well that the US is doing the torturing, maybe she is waiting for assurances from the voices only she can hear in her head.

It's a cute evasion though. They use private contractors to fly the prisoners to the CIA prison sites and private contractors do the interrogating of the prisoners. So she is saying that the US is not actually doing any of this. Only the people hired by the government. :wtf: To me that's the same thing, but then I'm just a lowly dissenter.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:04 AM
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4. "It depends on what your definition of 'appropriate' is." - Condi
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