* won't cover this in any speech...guaranteed!

[SHRED]

The rise to power of the following:


Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistani

Muqtada al-Sadr's Army:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqtada_al_Sadr
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/al-sadr.htm

Badr Brigade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badr_Brigade

These are the 'security forces' we are 'training'.:puke:
We train these guys and they, in turn, go after, and kill and torture Sunnis, in this downward spiral, as they enter Civil War.

Why are our kids dying again?:mad:

[No Exit]

1. Just like we armed/trained jihadists in the 80's.

If we don't get some "enemies" up to speed, we can't have endless war, and that would make the Carlysle Group very sad!:-(

[Sydnie]

2. and armed Saddam in the 80's too

we wanted to make sure we had both sides covered just in case, I guess.

[No Exit]

3. Even worse, I think the

"sides" are quite fluid. (Wasn't that a nice, folksy picture of Thief Rumsfeld vigorously shaking Saddam's hand?) I think the objective is to keep war going--so someone can get richer and richer selling war apparatus to governments.