I remember JFK and Camelot.

[chieftain]

To think that we have fallen so far from the grace, wit and intelligence of that time is so very sad.
I saw Kennedy speak during the '60 campaign at a shopping center parking lot in Kansas City Mo. He was wonderful. I remember staying up until late into the night waiting for the election to be called. I remember the pride I felt as his Inaugural Address called my generation to service on behalf of America and a better world.
And, of course, I remember that terrible day in November so many years ago when my school day was interrupted by the awful news.
Rest In Peace, John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The country, the world and I still miss you.

[ailsagirl]

1. I think the country started its downward spiral that day...

I, too, remember that terrible day. It was just unbelievable.
Now we know so much more about how our government works and
I guess it really isn't all that surprising after all. What
a different world it would have been had JFK been allowed to
finish even his first term.

We have not forgotten.

:patriot:

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Yes

The day we all died. :cry: I wasn't a live and still wonder all the time "what if". Of course we also might not have had some other great president's such as Clinton.

[amitten]

2. We will live to see another like him.

History always repeats itself...good and bad alike.

Kinda boring, isn't it?

[Bridget Burke]

5. When?

What, exactly, do you mean by "history always repeats itself." It really doesn't.

And, no, it's not boring.

[dajoki]

8. my hope was...

JFK jr. i think he was starting to feel it before he was tragically taken from us.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. And so much of Camelot

was Jackie Kennedy. Grace, brains, beauty.

[dajoki]

4. when i think of it...

i want to cry. i was only in 4th grade but remember it like it was yesterday. also Robert makes me just as sad, he would have been a great president. my personal opinion is that RFK was one of the greatest liberals and Americans that ever lived.

[melody]

6. Wonderful post. A suggested link.

Anyone interested in the JFK investigation and related matters, there's a great quick time audio on the net that was recorded on the 10th anniversary of his murder ("assassination" is always so clean-sounding).
It was recorded by a major Kennedy researcher at the time, Mae Brussell. It's astounding how many of the current names were all around the Kennedy assassination. Fascinating to also hear the essential issues of torture and chemical warfare were still in play with the shadow figures back then.

http://maebrussell.com/Audio/Merrill%20College%20Lecture.html

[DeepModem Mom]

7. Let it never be forgot, that once there was a President, for one brief...

shining moment --


The men who create power make an indispensable contribution to the Nation’s greatness, but the men who question power make a contribution just as indispensable, especially when that questioning is disinterested, for they determine whether we use power or power uses us.
John F. Kennedy, Amherst College, Oct 26, 1963 - Source JFK Library, Boston, Mass.

...probably the greatest concentration of talent and genius in this house except for perhaps those times when Thomas Jefferson ate alone.
John F. Kennedy, Describing a dinner for Nobel Prize winners, 1962

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962

And so, my fellow americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.
John F. Kennedy, Inaugural address, January 20, 1961

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
John F. Kennedy, inaugural address, January 20, 1961

We must never forget that art is not a form of propaganda; it is a form of truth.
John F. Kennedy, October 26, 1963

For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal.
John F. Kennedy, Speech at The American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963

Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings.
John F. Kennedy, speech at The American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.
John F. Kennedy, speech at Vanderbilt University, May 18, 1963

We need men who can dream of things that never were.
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other.
John F. Kennedy, speech prepared for delivery in Dallas the day of his assassination, November 22, 1963

Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind.
John F. Kennedy, Speech to UN General Assembly, Sept. 25, 1961


http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/John_F._Kennedy

[dajoki]

9. Thank you very much...

for posting those quotes.

[chieftain]

13. Thanks for the quotes. He was so eloquent and so

right on the important issues. His legacy resides in his words, deeds and a generation which was challenged to strive for higher goals than the conformism of the 50's.

[MirrorAshes]

17. Great stuff there, thanks n/t

[LetsGoMurphys]

24. I love the quote

"Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men."

[Joe Chi Minh]

10. Are you putting down Tolemac, GWB and the Knights of the

Card Table?

[chieftain]

11. Damn. You caught me and I thought I was being so subtle.

[Joe Chi Minh]

12. I misspoke. I should have said, "Knaves", not "Knights".

[bmbmd]

15. Each evening, from December til December

before you fall asleep upon your cot.

Think back on all the things that you remember

of Camelot.

Ask every person if he's heard the story

and tell him loud and clear if he has not

that once there was a shining glimpse of glory

called Camelot.

[ailsagirl]

16. When I look at photos of JFK and Jackie, I'm amazed over how

young, how contemporary, they look. It's hard to believe
they're gone-- John Jr. too. I saw Caroline briefly on
TV the other day-- she looked very happy. She must really
have her act together, considering she lost both parents
and her beloved brother-- all so young. She must be a very
strong woman.

[formernaderite]

18. I remember Kennedy...didn't care much for the whole elitist camelot

crap. Not even sure if Kennedy would still appeal to me. I've grown more to the left in my old age. The political family dynasty stuff irritates me even more today. I guess I'm just a curmudgeon.

[bonito]

19. But we carry his message into that cold dark night! n/t

[ngGale]

20. The end of innocence...

and since has only been, the cold, corrupt, cruel world.:cry:

[Marleyb]

21. If JFK and W could debate...

...dueling presidents
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/bolivia/jfk-w-dueling_presidents.mp3

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

22. Lyrics of an old folk song about this day in history

Crucifixion

By Phil Ochs


And the night comes again to the circle studded sky
The stars settle slowly, in loneliness they lie
'Till the universe explodes as a falling star is raised
Planets are paralyzed, mountains are amazed
But they all glow brighter from the brilliance of the blaze
With the speed of insanity, then he dies.

In the green fields a turnin', a baby is born
His cries crease the wind and mingle with the morn
An assault upon the order, the changing of the guard
Chosen for a challenge that is hopelessly hard
And the only single sound is the sighing of the stars
But to the silence and distance they are sworn

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Images of innocence charge him go on
But the decadence of destiny is looking for a pawn
To a nightmare of knowledge he opens up the gate
And a blinding revelation is laid upon his plate
That beneath the greatest love is a hurricane of hate
And God help the critic of the dawn.

So he stands on the sea and shouts to the shore,
But the louder that he screams the longer he's ignored
For the wine of oblivion is drunk to the dregs
And the merchants of the masses almost have to be begged
'Till the giant is aware, someone's pulling at his leg,
And someone is tapping at the door.

To dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Then his message gathers meaning and it spreads across the land
The rewarding of his pain is the following of the man
But ignorance is everywhere and people have their way
Success is an enemy to the losers of the day
In the shadows of the churches, who knows what they pray
For blood is the language of the band.

The Spanish bulls are beaten; the crowd is soon beguiled,
The matador is beautiful, a symphony of style
Excitement is ecstatic, passion places bets
Gracefully he bows to ovations that he gets
But the hands that are applauding are slippery with sweat
And saliva is falling from their smiles

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Then this overflow of life is crushed into a liar
The gentle soul is ripped apart and tossed into the fire.
First a smile of rejection at the nearness of the night
Truth becomes a tragedy limping from the light
All the heavens are horrified, they stagger from the sight
As the cross is trembling with desire.

They say they can't believe it, it's a sacrilegious shame
Now, who would want to hurt such a hero of the game?
But you know I predicted it; I knew he had to fall
How did it happen? I hope his suffering was small.
Tell me every detail, I've got to know it all,
And do you have a picture of the pain?

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

Time takes her toll and the memory fades
but his glory is broken, in the magic that he made.
Reality is ruined; it's the freeing from the fear
The drama is distorted, to what they want to hear
Swimming in their sorrow, in the twisting of a tear
As they wait for a new thrill parade.

The eyes of the rebel have been branded by the blind
To the safety of sterility, the threat has been refined
The child was created to the slaughterhouse he's led
So good to be alive when the eulogy is read
The climax of emotion, the worship of the dead
And the cycle of sacrifice unwinds.

So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you

And the night comes again to the circle studded sky
The stars settle slowly, in loneliness they lie
'Till the universe explodes as a falling star is raised
Planets are paralyzed, mountains are amazed
But they all glow brighter from the brilliance of the blaze
With the speed of insanity, then he died.

[cassiepriam]

23. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your

country. I have been thinking of that quote a lot lately.