The freepers are flipping out, Harriet Miers must be a good....

[liberaliraqvet26]

pick!!!! Lets see what Dobson says. If he doesn't support her than I do.

[win_in_06]

1. I wouldn't take too much comfort in that

She is a stealth pick. That is the type Bush thinks can get confirmed easily.

I'll be she is conservative. SMU is like the anti-Berkeley.

[bowens43]

3. Of course she's conservative.

The question is, is she an extremeist? She may not be.

[Mass]

6. She is there to defend Bush against all attacks

That should be enough to disqualify her. We have NO clue where she stands but is that important when Bush gives us the most blatant example of cronyism in a very long time.

[npincus]

38. Yep

[formernaderite]

42. exactly....she's just no wingnut

in the end there's little we can do besides filibuster....the president is going to nominate repubs not dems.

[formernaderite]

82. I take back my statement....she is a wingnut

and this is a trojan horse bush has sent in. I am extremely cynical regarding this woman.

[okieinpain]

85. she's a fundie, this is the one the dems need to raise hell over.

[Donailin]

2. ru kidding???

she's bush's WH attorney. Cronyism. From Wikopedia

Harriet Ellan Miers is the White House Counsel in the Presidential Administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, replacing Alberto Gonzales who was appointed Attorney General. She was previously Bush's Deputy Chief of Staff.

Miers, a Texas native, studied at Southern Methodist University, where she earned undergraduate and law degrees. She was an attorney in private practice until 2000 and was George W. Bush's personal lawyer. In 1985, she became the first female president of the Dallas Bar Association and in 1992 became the first woman to head the Texas State Bar. She was also elected to one term as an at-large member on the Dallas City Council.

During George Bush's term as Governor of Texas, Miers chaired the Texas Lottery Commission (1995-2000) and then followed Bush to Washington, DC, serving as Assistant to the President and Staff Secretary during the first two years of his presidential term. In 2003, she rose to the post of Deputy Chief of Staff and is said to be a close personal friend of the president. In November 2004, Bush named her to succeed Alberto Gonzales, his nominee for Attorney General, to the post of White House Counsel, the chief legal advisor for the Office of the President.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Miers

[rfranklin]

4. You are looking at it the wrong way...

Loyalty, not ideology, is the important quality. The right wing Christian thing is just a political ploy and has nothing to do with the core beliefs of the Bush junta. Follow the money is the mantra with the Bush crime family.

[McKenzie]

10. bang on the money there...

anyone who researches the history of the ruling elite since the early 20th century will quickly realise that these people are essentially apolitical and amoral. What they are interested in is money, not political ideology. To them the left-right debate provides a means to distract the people from the real issues. They are laughing all the way to the bank as they have done for decades.

[Savannah Progressive]

83. Money is important to them, but not all that is important

The Repugs also want power. They want power over a womans body, power over speech, power over civil rights. They want power to control us all.

[hlthe2b]

5. Hell, they want a slobbering rabid dominionist fire-breather...

I don't think I'd judge worthiness based on their discomfort....

[DemFromMem]

7. Donated to Al Gore, Lloyd Bentsen and the DNC

She made these donations in '88 then started only giving to Republicans after that. One wonders why she wouldn't give to Bush senior when she donated regularly to Republicans after that date.

I'm actually optimistic since she was a president of the Texas Bar and the Dallas Bar. Wackos don't get those jobs since a good portion of the bar is to the left of the general public (particularly in a place like Texas).

We'll obviously have to see.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. She has a history of achievement in the law.

Her mother taught her the difference between right and wrong.

Wow. I am impressed.

[Divernan]

9. What kind of person could be "a close personal friend" of W's?

And this friendship goes back a long way. As his personal lawyer, she has to have been exposed to the full measure of all of his negative characteristics - his greed, his callous jokes as he imposed the death penalty, his piss poor parenting, his laziness, his extremely disfunctional extended family, his contempt for the environment, and on and on and on. Since the woman was intelligent enough to get through law school, her "friendship" speaks volumes of her abilty to suck up for her personal gain.

[win_in_06]

11. The White House strategists are probably high-fiving right now

because the freepers are freaking, the dems are scratching their heads and the press is saying, "who?"


The perfect stealth candidate

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[win_in_06]

13. Quickly, what is your opinion on Miers?

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[m_welby]

26. uhh, spelling and grammer ?

Even know what a run on sentence is? or proper tense?

Seriously, I'd love to see a list of your third party unbiased sources. I don't believe in unbiased anything, one can only judge by the facts usually buried in an informations source.

If I took everything at face value, I'd be a gullible fool (and Bush voter).

"Judge them by what they do not what they say."

[renie408]

35. What about her leads you to believe that she will be a competent

Supreme Court Justice?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

41. she is 60, looks 70 and has an unhealthy aura about her.

I love how cable news sez:

we know nuttin!

[Coyote_Bandit]

Civics 101

Not all our law is embodied in statutes and in other documents such as the constitution. We also use precedent (e.g., case law or the common law). Since facts vary from case to case (some people slip and fall on fresh banana peels while others slip and fall on slimy old balck banana peels - should this make a difference?) judges must be proactive in applying the law. And since legislators pass statutes without defining the verbage they use in their legislation (i.e. what does it really mean to loiter? what behavior is prohibited by a statute that prohibits loitering? better yet what does it mean to be disabled?) judges must also interpret the meaning of those statutes (a prohibition against loitering would be struck down as being vague). This is not judicial activism. It is the rightful role of one branch of government acting as a check on the powers of another branch of government. Without these powers the judiciary becomes little more than a rubber stamp for the legislature - and that is not the role they are intended to have.

[Zen Democrat]

46. Please correct your spelling and syntax errors, ED.

since you are so quick to judge others. Your 11 year old should be very disappointed in you.

[Divernan]

48. Where are the facts upon which you base your "opinion"?

The legal definition of "opinion" is "a formal statement of reasons for a judgment given." You state your expectations, but on what facts are these expectations based? Do you blindly endorse everyone or anyone whom Bush nominates to a position? If not, exactly why do you support this candidate? I am curious, because so little is known of her values or beliefs, other than that she has stated that Bush is the most brilliant man she has ever met.

Of course you realize that Bush and his handlers would never nominate anyone to the Supreme Court unless they were quite comfortable that he or she would never think independently. I personally think she was nominated because she has no paper trail of opinions upon which she can be questioned or evaluated.
There are many moderate judges, with excellent credentials, from whom Bush could have selected a candidate. He chose a true stealth candidate.

Tell us, what are you doing to support all the crippled and maimed Iraq vets whose access to VA treatment has been so severely cut back by Bush? What about your efforts to make sure that our young men and women get basic equipment without being told to buy their own protection vests, water camels, etc.?
I don't believe you are re-activating. If you were going to do that, you would have done it by now. Or have you been guaranteed a stateside posting? Why didn't you reactivate a year ago? You know that the situation in Iraq has deteriorated even more in the last month and that they are on the verge of civil war - EXACTLY THE PREDICTED OUTCOME which persuaded Bush Sr. to pull out of Iraq the first time around.

[Telly Savalas]

59. Nice.

If you're going to be an abrasive asshole and call people out for their spelling and grammar errors, you should make sure your own posts are free of them.

[seeker4ever]

14. Hey Genius...

So where are these apolitical news and information outlets? FreeRepublic?

F*ck off dope.

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[seeker4ever]

22. Nuh uh, you, you showed YOUR brain power...

Why don't you provide a real answer dope?

[tabasco]

15. Get to Iraq freeper !

www.goarmy.com

This liberal infantry vet just got called back to active duty so that fuckheads like YOU can sit on your ass and praise Bush! Coward!

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[tabasco]

21. Riiiight!! Still under 47?? Prior service welcome!!

COWARD !!

[tabasco]

23. Which battalion???

I'm sure they'd love to have you back !

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[seeker4ever]

31. By the looks of your picture...

I understand why you sound like a moron but I think you're too young to fight in Iraq. :)

[tabasco]

58. No doubt !

I've trained with Marine units many times. Which battalion were you in??

Only a COWARD would claim to be a vet when it is not true.

[coda]

63. Gonna go help make that Islamic theocracy stick?

The one that Bushco guaranteed would never happen?

Iran sends its kudos.


"Fortunately, after years of effort and expectations in Iraq, an Islamic state has come to power and the constitution has been established on the basis of Islamic precepts. We must congratulate the Iraqi people and authorities for this victory."

--Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, head of Iran's Guardian Council in Tehran

[Jo March]

77. Sure - we believe that you are re-enlisting

Right.

You have no clue about what is really going on with Bush, do you? You are just another sheep who has no clue. Yet you come to DU and spew a bunch of semi-literate garbage with nothing to back up your words.

Hope your stay in Iraq goes well. :hi: You can thank your Lord and Leader, Bush, when you don't have adequate armor or decent food to eat. Oh, and if you are injured or suffer from PTSD, you can thank Bush and his cronies for refusing to provide veterans with adequate healthcare.

Face it. You've been punk'd!!

[win_in_06]

40. No Marine would ever describe himself as a former Marine

Once a Marine, always a Marine

[DemDogs]

49. Corrections to ED

Corrected version of ED's post:

I am a former marine. (ADD PERIOD.)
Thanks. (CAPITALIZE. ADD PERIOD.)
I did my service to my country, and I would gladly do it again, even if it supports people who have no clue about what makes this country great. (ADD "I" or CAPITALIZE "D" IN DID. I ADDED "I" SINCE THERE WAS AN "I" IN THE OTHER HALF OF THE COMPOUND SENTENCE. ADD COMMA BEFORE THE "AND" IN THE COMPOUND SENTENCE.
Unless I am mistaken, "OOHRAH" is not a word.

[0007]

65. You sound "asiatic" and a person who likes to beat on their

own chest.

And if your a marine, which I doubt, you'll understand the slang.

[npincus]

75. what does an "asiatic" sound like?

I'm just following this debate and that caught my interest.

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[tabasco]

61. You talking to me, you lying coward?

I'm still waiting to hear about YOUR military experience.

I'll be reporting to Fort Bragg in January. Unlike your hero Bush, I will SHOW UP and do my duty.

[Jo March]

78. Oh, dear deluded Ed

I hope that he gets his head out of his ass soon.

[ToolTex]

25. Not to worry, ED. Bob Dole said Viagra works for ED.

n/t

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[tabasco]

64. This is the only brigade you were ever in.

THE CHICKENHAWK BRIGADE!!

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. Freeper alert - Another good reason to keep the toilet seat lid down

[pretzel4gore]

30. we can build on this...

unlike rightwingers (we sometimes callem 'ratwingers' but that's just us funning) we libleftists here at DU think that two minds, no matter how different, can think the same with enough education (what republicans often call 'indoctrination' but they're just having fun again)...the idea is that wrongheadedness, such as you display, can be overwhelmed by sheer workmanlike pummeling, iow we can beat the 'u' outta your stupidity!
welcome to DU and don't forget to eat your muslix
:)

[renie408]

33. Dontcha love it when somebody tells you that you are wrong

and says, "Hey, get some facts!!"....and offers no facts whatsoever to back up their accusations?

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[renie408]

39. Help me out

You feel like you understand what 'makes this country great' and that everybody here is wrong. Across the board. You say there are 'no facts', but that is patently untrue.

Give me a short list of the things that we have gotten wrong. And make it quick, cause you are right about getting kicked off.

[Roland99]

44. It's "thereof", not "there of". If you're going to insult someone's

intelligence, at least use proper spelling.

Especially since you railed about grammar and spelling errors in your post.


You are a true "moran".

[RoBear]

47. SURE you're impartial.

Sorry. I can't resist.

I like your sweeping statements, so beloved by the right-wingers, such as "the people here," "half of you," "you guys," and the like. I think you'll find a lot of diversity here, unlike the right wing in this country, which tends to march in lock-step.

As an English teacher, I couldn't resist making some corrections so that your next post will be even more intelligent than this one.

>Thereof is one word, not two
>"At worst it would be for a good laugh..." At worst?
>11-year-old (requires hyphens)
>Your sentence about China is confusing. Do you mean to go live there for two years or or that "your liberal media" has been "propping up for two years?
>I should be capilized consistently, not only part of the time as you've done
>Please not plese

So long. Can't say it's been nice...
>


I think you'd find that well more than half of us have done far more research than you seem to believe. It's the right-wing not doing its research that worries me...

[NoPasaran]

50. Thanks for your input, Professor Einstein

Now go fuck yourself!

[July]

54. Since you can't stand differing views, perhaps YOU would be comfy in China

And it's spelled "please."

[distantearlywarning]

55. Pot? Meet kettle.

"I see grammar and spelling errors my 11 year old does not make and would die if she handed in a paper to her teacher that looked like 90% of the posts on this site."

:rofl:

The saddest part is that Mr. Ed in Louisiana is completely and totally serious and doesn't even see what's so funny about this.

[sui generis]

60. please, give us some examples

after nine posts you are certainly no authority on anything.

Mr. Ed, you are full of shit. However you are welcome to stick around a bit longer and see why 70,000 would be registered and continue post here on every topic under the sun.

Reality disfunction is a hallmark of conservative minds.

[emulatorloo]

66. "Go live in a communist country like China" - how much money has Bush

borrowed from Communist China to pay for his tax cuts for his rich friends?

[Jo March]

76. Ed, before you go criticizing grammar, you should re-read your post

Here's your chance, Ed. Go on and list those "rumors" that we are posting. Refute our rumors with the facts.

Go on. We are waiting for your most intelligent and wonderful insights on current events.

No, really. We are. :eyes:

By the way, you do know that you capitalize "i", don't you?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Ed.

[cantstandbush]

19. This, to me, is a "throw-away" nomination so Repubs can vote "no"

and show some distance between them and the failed President Bush.
It will be easy for Dems and enough Republicans to vote against her.

[usregimechange]

20. Where did this come from? What are the freeps saying?

[seeker4ever]

32. Hey ED! Thanks for that extensive list of impartial media sources,,

here it is for all to read:

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37. Chickenshit liar

Good job dope.

No wonder you're a Bush fan. Dumb as dirt.

[renie408]

43. What a waste

And here I thought I was going to get some insight into how freepers think.

But there are no thoughts to evaluate. Just 'you are wrong...you are wrong...you are wrong...'

[mtnsnake]

51. You're living proof why Bush appeals to so many dumb people

who lie through their teeth and are afraid of their own fucking shadows. He's just like you.

[5thGenDemocrat]

79. "Lie through their teeth"

I think you mean "tooth."
John
Or was that a collective "teeth?" I'm certain the gang(sters) at FR must have 60 or 70 teeth amongst them.
Anyhow -- Hi, ED. And bye, ED.

[Divernan]

52. LOL! "a book" or "a newspaper"

Sounds like the learned footnotes we can expect on the legal opinions written by Bush's latest Supreme Court nominee!
Imagine this guy's answers to his kids' questions. "Because I said so, that's why!"
You know he's still reading these posts. He just doesn't have the cojones or brains or guts to try to respond.

[holboz]

53. Wait, ED I still want to hear YOUR facts

You keep talking about "facts, facts, gimme some damn facts" yet you still haven't given us any facts to support what YOU'RE saying.

I also don't understand this sentence:
"why don't you get off your rear, go to the store, buy a book and READ... buy a newspaper and read it ... alot of things get published in both of those sources that never make it to the highly biased liberalistic media"

(FYI - you forgot to end your period with a sentence. I know you're a grammar/syntax stickler. And "liberalistic" is not actually a word. "Liberal" is the word you're looking for here. Just trying to help.)

Funny thing is, I think liberals read more than Freepers. Freepers just regurgitate the day's talking points. How do we know? Because RWers like you only know how to refute by beleaguering and insulting and screaming, "YOU'RE WRONG, YOU'RE UN-AMERICAN, YOU'RE AN UNPATRIOTIC COMMIE!"

I love an intellectual debate as much as the next guy but I'm sorry, ED. You debate like the rest of the uninformed, brainwashed, talking-point spewing Freeps.

Come back when YOU know some facts so we can actually discuss something without insulting one another's patriotism (or lack THEREOF...please note the spelling, ED, for future reference.)

[AntiCoup2K4]

69. Hey, Ed before you get tombstoned.......

...I'd just like to say thanks. You're the perfect Freeper for a much needed Monday morning laugh :hi:

[seeker4ever]

45. Run off to Freeperland where failure is respected...

like the entire Bush administration.

Bye, bye chickensh*t!

[Roland99]

56. Here's a Freeper thread from last week...they didn't like her then either

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493213/posts

Some complaining she's too close to the President or that she has no judicial experience.

[0007]

57. Very interesting.......Let's wait and see what comes out!

[INdemo]

62. For what ever reason

this is a set up..Bush and his cronies know there is no way this woman will be approved by Democrats..So the fight begins..this is their strategy but I havnt figured ou what they are up too There is just no way this woman can be confirmed..No experience as a Judge?

[AntiCoup2K4]

67. Why not? Look at Roberts

A mere 2 years on ANY bench, and he's "qualified" to be Chief Justice?

It's clear that the Chimp could care less about qualifications. Look at "Brownie". Look at Chertoff. Look at the Chimp himself, a failure at every job his daddy ever bought him.

Miers is the typical BCE nominee, not the exception.

And she'll be confirmed, with the help of at least 22 spineless jellyfish who call themselves "Democrats"

[ChairmanAgnostic]

73. But in his defense, (only as a comparison)

he has drafted many motions seeking the court to accept a case, he has written many USSC pleadings - and I gotta tell you, there is a lot of work that goes into them. He has argued upwards of 20 USSC oral arguments. Most lawyers are proud if they argue a case before their state appellate court. Once. To have done it multiple times is truly a huge amount of experience.

That is not to say that I agree with his selection. I don't. I am proud of Illinois' senators, both of whom voted no.

As for the rest of your post, you and I agree 100%. She is there because she is a hatchet worker FOB. And she will be confirmed, unless she is found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. Or is it the other way around?

[Mass]

68. Bush nominee Miers steered group aimed at deprogramming gays

Freepers apparently missed this in this case.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_nominee_Miers_steered_group_aimed_1003.html

Bush's nominee to the Supreme Court is a former board member of EXODUS Ministries, perhaps the world's largest organization that seeks to "save" men and women from a life of same-sex relationships, RAW STORY has discovered.

"Live-in" ministries don't just focus on deprogramming gays -- they also train transvestites and transsexuals how to become "normal."

Exodus promises the "fullness of redemption found in Jesus Christ, a gift which is available to all who commit their life and their sexuality to Him."
...

[AntiCoup2K4]

70. She should have fun in this Fraudministration

...except she'll be too busy deprogramming homosexuals to actually hear any court cases.

[tritsofme]

71. Andrew Sullivan says there are two Exodus Ministries:

This one:

http://www.phpc.org/templates/cusprestonhollow/details.asp?id=29712&PID=242832

That deals win cons and ex-cons

And this one:

http://www.exodus-international.org/

That "deprograms" gays...

This needs to be clarified...

[belle]

80. It's apparently the former, the one that deals with cons and ex-cons

[Mass]

72. Reid says he likes her - Grrrr.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_nominee_Miers_steered_group_aimed_1003.html

[Roland99]

74. Christ on a stick

[Geek_Girl]

81. Looks like the story

has bee detracted.

[baron j]

84. I wonder what Dumbya's nickname for her, is?

Please, let it be something we can use to ridicule her with.