Kerry will give the White House to Bush

[eyeswideopened]

That is my opinion. Kerry has no arguments that can hold any water. He has supported Bush in everything that he has done as president or kept silent. He is not in a position to fight him on a political front. All Bush has to say is "You supported me then, why not now".

This is what the White House wants and they will get it. We were silly to think that they would wait until November to take the White House. They will control who the democratic contender is and make sure it is someone who they can beat or who will roll over when told to.

I know this is harsh. I believe there are republicans who have switched parties to vote in the primaries to help make this happen. They will be republicans again come November. These are my sentiments even if I sound paranoid.

[vi5]

1. Thank heavens you posted this again word for word

I was worried that not enough people would read this simply as a response to another thread.

[Uzybone]

2. you do sound paranoid

and to say Kerry has supported Bush in everything he has done is one of the most laughable staements Ive ever seen on DU.

[KFC]

3. I doubt it. At least Dean won't get a chance to

Democrats are now voting on the most important issue: electability. That is why Kerry is dominating.

[SahaleArm]

21. The sheeple are voting for who the media tells them to vote for...

If Kerry is the most 'electable' candidate - we are in trouble.

[ModerateMiddle]

29. actually, the media

was talking about Dean Dean Dean up until Iowa. The PEOPLE told the media something altogether different there, eh?

[sendero]

35. Nonsense..

... they trashed Dean Dean Dean and they'll commence to trashing Kerry the minute his front-runner status is confirmed.

And the original poster mirrors my thought exactly. Until the beginning of the campaign, which important Senate votes did Kerry go against the Reps on? I'm willing to be educated if I am wrong.

[kaitykaity]

4. Kerry is a "compromised" moderate.

He is a typical 'blow with the wind' politician.
He won't take a stand until it's popular.

[David Dunham]

Bill and Hillary Clinton are Successfull "Compromised" Moderates

[kaitykaity]

24. That was then.

This is now. The radical Bushies have changed
the rules of the game.

[lancdem]

5. Kerry is very different from Bush in numerous areas

from economic policy to service in the military, etc. And there is no GOP conspiracy, believe me.

[MindPilot]

6. I agree completely

Watching CNN and Fox this morning, I was struck by how much they were fawning over Kerry after spending the past week dogpiling on Dean and Clark. It's clear the media want Kerry out in front, and there could only be one reason for that: Kerry can't beat Bush, and if he does, he is still the special-interest insider who will help maintain the status quo.

[Monte Carlo]

7. Kerry can absolutely make arguments against Bush...

... about the war, about the voting, and about the Patriot Act. It puzzles me why so many here are convinced he can say naught a dissenting word. They are not in congruent agreement, they never have been.

Why has Ashcroft used the Patriot Act against strip clubs?

Why did Bush hamstring all efforts at diplomacy?

Why has your story for war changed like the tides?

Etc. It just needs a little imagination.

[ShaneGR]

8. Kerry the same as Bush???? Hogwash

None of the Dems (Except Lieberman) are the same as Bush. Not even close.

[Democrats unite]

17. Kerry flip flops to much to know who he is like.

eom

[HawkerHurricane]

18. Giving credit where it's due...

Lieberman is not the SAME as Bush...

Using a internet setup, I compared the candidates...
I agreed with Bush 11% of the time.
I agreed with Lieberman 75% of the time.

Quite a bit of difference...

[KC21304]

9. The only part of the White House Kerry will give Bush is the DOOR !

[LiberalTexan]

10. After four more years of Bush,

hopefully, we'll give Howard Dean another try to do it RIGHT (unlike Kerry) in 2008.

[Ninga]

23. The Bush re-election machine

will chew up and spit out Kerry like he was a piece of day old meat stuck in a pair of dentures.

LISTEN UP KIDS....... Kerry, Edwards, et al are BUSH LITE. When independent voters and Republican women look at either one of their voting records of the past 3 years they will not find a compelling reason to kick Bush out.

Kerry and Edwards have adopted Dean like language in their stump speeches. Edwards faltered in the debate last week when asked about Iraq.

Howard can cite chapter and verse regarding Iraq history, the dynamic which drove Saddam H., and support why Saddam would not have had a relationship with Al-Quida, because he hated them and would not have given up any control.

Electability is an undefinable quality, hard to get your arms around. I would not want to see voters in the fall defer to Bush, give him "4 more years to finish the job," all because the Dem candidate compares on many levels with Bush.

YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN JUST LIKE THIS, AND YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.

[eyeswideopened]

28. Thanks from a fellow Texan

[AntiCoup2K4]

33. We can't survive another 4 years of this shit.

We need President Dean NOW.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

11. Yes, and he'll say: "Oops I didn't know Bush would fuck up so bad"

Someone give Kerry a watch and send him into retirement!

[JoblessRecovery]

12. A severely slanted argument

And woefully unconvincing

[CWebster]

13. He gave him most everything else.

Hell, if I don't like him, I can't imagine what the Repugs will do.

If it comes to it, I would put money on it.

[jsw_81]

14. Are you for real?

John Kerry has opposed Bush on:

- Iraq/foreign policy
- Taxes
- Education
- Raising the minimum wage
- Workplace safety legislation
- The environment
- Gun control
- A woman's right to choose
- Gay rights
- Church/state separation

You're incredibly uninformed if you really think that Kerry has been supporting Bush.

[sendero]

37. Specific senate votes...

... do you have a link to specific senate votes on these issues. Screw the ex post facto rhetoric, any fool can do that. I'm just want to see the VOTES.

[mistertrickster]

15. Kerry IS liberal in the Ted Kennedy mold and he does have a long

Washington-insider history. But I think one of his most attractive things to voters is his perceived "electability." That what the voters in Iowa were saying.

BTW, I'm a rabid Deaniac and believe he would be the strongest candidate, but would support Kerry as nominee.

[DuctapeFatwa]

26. That mold was cast almost a half century ago, in an age of apartheid

back-alley abortions, in a much more homogeneous society with a thriving middle class where most schools and businesses forbade women wearing pants.

[bigtree]

16. Factless argument, unsupported by facts, links, specifics

I'll buy it! :eyes:

[creativelcro]

19. Totally agree with you ewo! Regardless of whether

the WH wants it or not, Kerry is going to be a disaster.

[MrSlayer]

20. I don't think you're paranoid.

The corporate media is trying to kill anyone who would have a chance of turning Bush out. (Dean, Clark) They want the guy they can most easily beat. How are you going to attack the Chimp on issues you voted for? The war and the patriot act are huge attacking points that will be negated. How did Kerry vote on the Medicare and War economic proposals? How did he vote on the tax cuts for the rich?

[Liberate]

27. this is are one great chance

This is are one great chance to beat Bush and I cant see Kerry as doing it. I dont think he has great public speaking ability, and personally, to me he sucks the charisma right out of the room..and he has the Al Gore problem. Being labled as a stiff washington insider.
How do you vote against the 91 gulf war and then vote for this one? With youre reply being..well i didnt think Bush would actually lead us to war? I cant support that naive excuse along with his voting for the patriot act and tax cuts. Kerry being nominated is a disaster in the making. To me just another tepid democrat who the right wing wants desperately nominated.

[lovedems]

22. I think democrats are going to vote in record numbers this year

regardless of who gets the nomination. People want * out.

[eyeswideopened]

25. I agree and in the end I will support the democratic candidate

I just don't understand what it is that Kerry has going for him to get this much attention from the media and the voters. Compared to the other candidates I can't see why so many people are picking him. He had not done well in the speeches that I have seen.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

30. you dont?

that's easy, because he's milquetoast compared to the best of the field.

[Abigail147]

38. They are. It feels good, doesn't it?

I think the media is becoming uneasy. They might have put the money on the wrong dog.

[emulatorloo]

31. Here's my opinion

You have not been paying attention if you think that JK has "supported Bush in everything he has done or kept silent"

You devalue his record fighting for gays, women, the environment, kids, small business, etc etc etc

I guarantee you he has many arguments against Bush that will hold water. If you visit his website, you can read about them.

I know this is harsh, but I believe that the positions of the top 4 are remarkably similar, because they are democrats. Not one of these candidates invented this message, no matter what you might have heard at a rally. And that is a good thing, because it is a good message and we are going to bring it forward.

I am tired of hearing about how the White House wants candidate X. They are afraid of them all, and they ought to be, because this corrupt administration is indefensible, and any one of our candidates will rip them to shreds with our help.

These are my sentiments.

[kstewart33]

32. Can we just table this kind of posting and wait for the returns?

Let's all sit back, take a big breath, and wait. And while we wait, no more slamming of any Dem candidate.

How about it?

[HazMat]

34. Wrong

All Bush has to say is "You supported me then, why not now".

All Kerry has to say is "because you lied."

I believe there are republicans who have switched parties to vote in the primaries to help make this happen.

Then you do not understand the Iowa caucus system. It is very intimate, party function that takes committment. There is very little chance of opposition party mischief.

The ironic thing about the Dean movement is that it was supposed to be about the people taking back their government from the media, the establishment, etc and that's exactly what they did when the voted for Kerry in Iowa. The media and Dem establishment had coronated Dean, but Iowans stood up and made their own choice.

[ibegurpard]

36. ROFL!

"The media and Dem establishment had coronated Dean, but Iowans stood up and made their own choice."
Thanks for the laugh!