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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:09 AM
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You "out" Jeff Guckert. You BLOW THE COVER of a CIA agent.
When we call it "outing," we turn Ms. Plame/Wilson from an agent of the United States into a surrogate lesbian. Don't advance the Radical RW agenda by adopting their framing!!

Language matters.

NGU.


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:14 AM
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1. good reminder CW n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:33 AM
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2. Just doin' my part, AZ...
:hi:

NGU.


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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:36 AM
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3. Thank you, Class Warrior..
I posted a similar message in a thread the other day & it got exactly zero response. The other purpose of using the "outing" phrase is to make the crime seem to be less criminal. We never think that outing a gay person is criminal. In fact, many on the right think it's their duty. This crime has everything to do with treason.

This is very important. Every time I hear some empytheaded member of the corporate media spew this, I get angry....but when I hear that crap repeated here ; I want to scream. DO NOT REPEAT RNC TALKING POINTS.

:banghead:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:50 AM
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4. You are sooo right Rose.
People who'd otherwise be on our side on this think that "outing" is their duty, as you said.

Thanks for spreading the word!

NGU.


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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:04 AM
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5. Rove "Betrayed" Plame and the rest of the intelligence community.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 01:06 PM
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6. Yes.
In fact, he betrayed the American people.

NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 01:37 PM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 05:56 PM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:19 AM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:35 AM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:12 PM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:50 PM
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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 07:55 PM
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9. This might get some RW nut hackles up
"Rove crucifies CIA Agent sending associates into hiding in fear for their lives!"
Film at 11.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:50 PM
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10. Bonus!
NGU.


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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:30 AM
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13. I am inclined to think it doesn't have the same connotation. I think this
kind of outing existed before it became popular for gay outing. Could be wrong and maybe I am older than you so I just think about it differently.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:06 PM
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14. The verb "outing" arose as a shortened version of...
..."forcing someone OUT of the closet." It has never been a common term for revealing the identity of a clandestine agent.

And, with that association in place, the human brain makes a subconscious connection between "outing" and homosexuality.

NGU.


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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:13 PM
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15. No, I think "outing" pre-dates "out of the closet."
It means "to become publicly known" as in "the truth will out."

The closet reference was probably built around the word "out" and came afterwards.



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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:26 PM
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16. That's possible, but it wasn't COMMONLY used until after...
..."out of the closet."

NGU.


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