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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:50 PM
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If Rove takes a direct hit and goes to jail, can * pardon him?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:51 PM
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1. Reagan pardoned Felt. Was Felt convicted under Carter or Reagan?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:52 PM
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2. Yes.
Pretty wild, huh?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:54 PM
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5. I can just see * doing it with such shameless glee.
Right now, I can hear him saying, Carl, you fucked up and I gotta cut you loose but no worries, its been a good ride and I'll hook you up on the way out cause thats the kind of guy I am.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:53 PM
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3. Of course. The only one he can't pardon is himself.
Lets keep hoping the story spreads far and wide!
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Fiona Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:03 PM
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16. Yes
he can pardon himself. It's never been done, but nothing prevents it.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:53 PM
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Yes
The president can actually pardon Rove before he is charged with anything. President Ford pardoned Nixon before Nixon was formally charged.

The president may pardon any federal crime except in cases of impeachment.

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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:53 PM
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4. Probably, should get him impeached for sure though
Here's hopin' anyway.


Keith’s Barbeque Central


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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:54 PM
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6. * could pardon him, pre-emptively, RIGHT NOW
remember Ford's pardoning Nixon for any crimes he "may have comitted."
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:58 PM
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7. Yes, just like Daddy
If GHWB hadn't pardoned Weinberger and the other Iran-Contra criminals, he'd have ended up in jail himself.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:59 PM
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8. To my knowledge, the president can pardon anybody,
though it is common practice for a president to wait until the very end of his term for the more scandalous pardons.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:14 PM
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14. I think you are correct.
The President ... shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardons1.htm
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:11 PM
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9. My prediction:
As soon as Fitzgerald returns indictments, Bush pardons everybody named, AND retains them in their administration positions. He is bastard enough to do it.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:45 PM
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10. Kkkarl is freer, than you and me,, and as long as Shrubs in charge..
thats the way it will be.Thats Shrubs Brain your talking about.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:06 PM
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12. Well Shrub's Brain wasn't two smart when he outed Plame.
I think we give him to much credit in the first place.

Could he still hold down his job if * pardoned him?
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:58 PM
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11. ROVE IS A FELON, A TRAITOR AND A SLEAZE
LET CHUCK COLSEN SAVE HIS SOUL.

He compromised Valerie Flame

He compromised her contacts - both US and foreign.

He put their lives at risk.

He blew the cover - directly and indirectly - of American agents.

What he did was worse then anything that Jonathan Jay Pollard or Larry Franklin or Robert Philip Hanssen or Aldrich Ames ever did - and as an aggravating circumstance he did it from the White House - and as a further aggravating circumstance he did it under the cover of being an Assistant Presidential Chief of Staff, and as a still further aggravating circumstance - he did it for political revenge.

FROM A POSITION OF "SPECIAL TRUST AND CONFIDENCE" --- --- HE BETRAYED THE TRUST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:09 PM
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13. Let him.
It would mean two things:

(1) Rove WAS CONVICTED. And that would be good.

(2) Bush would do something what even the most ignorant person would agree was an abuse of his power. So even if he wasn't involved now, he would be afterwards.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:02 PM
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15. yes...it would be the first
pardon on Treason.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:11 PM
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17. Yes, but it'd be his first and last
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