Governor Dean gets partisan, Republican former senator walks out.

[madfloridian]

http://www.oregonlive.com/metronorth/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/metro_north_news/111338673088020.xml

Even in new role, Dean comes out blazing

The Democratic National Committee chair pulls no punches in a passionate speech at Skyview High School
Wednesday, April 13, 2005

SNIP..."But he heard the loudest whoops and applause when he delivered campaign-style attacks on the Republican Party and the Bush administration. He also blasted proposals to privatize Social Security and emphasized the need for individuals to contribute money to political candidates to offset the influence of corporate giving.

He wasn't speaking as chairman of the Democratic Party, Dean said at the outset of the speech, noting that he committed to the engagement before he got his current job in mid-February.

"But I intend to be partisan," he said, to applause and cheering.

Even his entry onto the stage at Skyview High had the feel of a campaign stop. Nearly all of the 1,100 people who paid $11 admission stood and cheered.

"Yeah," Dean said, roving the stage with a wireless microphone. "How many of you are really from Portland?"

Plenty, it appeared. "I thought a few of you snuck across the bridge," he said...."

The remarks, including a jab at President Bush, were so partisan that Don Carlson, a former Republican state senator from Vancouver, walked out less than 15 minutes after Dean began. "He's giving a political speech," said Carlson, who praised a presentation he heard earlier Tuesday by two former Democratic governors, Mike Lowry of Washington and John Kitzhaber of Oregon. "He was supposed to be here to talk about civil discourse. It was not supposed to be a Democratic event."

The article further mentions that the event alternates parties each year, so actually it is sort of partisan. I like the closing:

SNIP.."Next year, organizers hope to book either former U.S. Rep. Newt Gingrich or Karl Rove, the high-ranking staff member in the current Bush administration.

The suggestion drew boos and hisses from the crowd."END SNIP

[Melodybe]

1. Yay Howard Dean!!! I love You!

[Deep13]

2. Who woddah thunk it?!

The head of the DNC gave a partisan speech?? Amazing.
:nopity:

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. You missed the memo right?

They are suposed to be partisan, we are su'posd to be milquntoast... them are the new rules.

:sarcasm:

[Deep13]

12. Oh, yeah, here it is.

How come it's in Rove's handwriting?

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Yep

Haha. I thought it was so funny what the guy said about that. Mmmm maybe he should go check out some republican "public" events. At least with Dean anybody is welcome. Gotta love him! :loveya: I'm so glad he's our chairman.

[MissWaverly]

30. excuse me, he was admitted to the event and free to criticize

where were the bumper sticker bouncers at the dem event, we invite everyone and we believe in free speech, and the event was funded by those who came not taxpayers, BUSHCO, has an exclusive event on our dime, carefully screens out all but the most loyal bushbot and then lets the local government sweat the cost of security, and all the Repugs can say about one of our events is that we are partisian, maybe he should have hung around and read the bumper stickers in the parking lot.

[pbartch]

51. Way to go OR - E - GUN!!!!!

GLAD YOU GAVE HOWARD SUCH A GREAT WELCOME!!!!

[sendero]

34. Those are the rules ..

... if you are a Dem, if you are a puke you can say whatever you want.

Fortunately for us, Dean threw that effed up rule book in the dumpster.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Oh boo hoo hoo waaaaahhhhh, Mr. Carlson

This guy likely believes Bush appearances are for Everyone! LOL

[madfloridian]

6. LOL I thought the very same thing. Bush's open appearances...funny.

Poor Mr. Carlson.

[ET Awful]

4. Hey Carlson! Did you have to sign a loyalty oath to get in? No?

Then quit yer bitchin'.

[mattclearing]

9. Seriously...at least he was allowed to attend.

Someone should tell him to STFU.

[tanyev]

7. Did the oh-so-offended Mr. Carlson walk out of any

town hall social security meetings because they were too partisan?

[Southsideirish]

8. I hope the door didn't hit him in the ass on his pouty way out.

[Lugnut]

10. Grow up Don

You were there which is more accomodation than a Democrat gets at one of your leader's audiences. My! What thin skin.

[mrgorth]

11. Feel the funk blast.

[DrGonzoLives]

13. Apparently

this whole prominent-Democrat-not-pulling-punches thing has some people upset.

[Arkana]

19. Yeah, now it's back to the "wild-eyed and uncontrollable" thing

that they used on him before. Something tells me that it won't work this time.

[grasswire]

14. Too bad Dean wasn't partisan with Richard Perle..

...when they debated in Portland in February. I paid $25 to hear him that night, and was disappointed.

[madfloridian]

16. Oh, come on. That was an excellent debate.

Remember it was on C-Span as well. We saw it, and it was very good.

[grasswire]

15. tell the reporter...

..what you think about Carlson's hypocrisy and double standard.

[email protected]

[madfloridian]

18. That is a good idea.

Did not think of that. I will remind him of the Fargo 42 who were blacklisted, most of whom were DFA.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. I wrote

And told him how pissed off I was and how Carlson was a big cry baby and if he was so concerned about that he should talk about how the republicans have loyalty oaths and if you're known to be a democrat you're not welcome and how pissed I was and that Bush works for US and seeing the president isn't a loyal thing. It's for ANYBODY! That really ticks me off.

[CarolNYC]

17. Chairman Dean rocks! n/t

:)

[Mist]

22. "he's giving a political speech" NO! A politician giving

a political speech! The horror, the horror...

[Crunchy Frog]

23. Democrats with backbones.

It's all good.

[madfloridian]

24. He raised his voice?

SNIP.."With his voice rising, he continued, "The middle-class people get squeezed out of the political process. And people don't care, but they have a say.

"You want campaign finance reform? Don't wait for the Congress or the Legislature to pass it, give 15 or 20 bucks to the candidates you care about...."

[Clark2008]

25. Good on 'im!

:thumbsup:

:bounce:

[tsuki]

26. Dean allowed Republicans in? He didn't screen his audience,

check bumpersticker, have big, sinister men of unknown government departments escorting people out. How old school of him. No wonder Democrats can't win.

:sarcasm:

[cestpaspossible]

27. Poor Mr. Carlson

he had to listen to things he didn't want to hear.

boo hoo

:nopity:

[Larkspur]

28. Give 'em hell Howard!!!!!

The Repuke in attendence mistook the Truth Dean spoke for Hell.

[madfloridian]

29. Have you noticed there is nothing else in the media about this?

Press were there, there was a press conference right after his speech. This article tells very little of what he said. I would love to know more. No one else is covering it. National media were there.

[WLKjr]

31. It's always been about the bold statements

and telling it how it is. Truth hurts Mr. Carlson, you whiney little beotch.

[sellitman]

32. Don Carlson left to find the free Amendment Zone

Maybe OJ can help him look for it... in between looking for his wife's killer?

[Catamount]

33. Thanks, great post!

SO far Howard is ON the Job!:kick:

[madfloridian]

35. I found another article on it. "Democracy is in danger." Today's theme.

Have you noticed our Democrats hammering on this?

http://www.columbian.com/04132005/front_pa/265128.cfm

Dean: Democracy in 'Danger'

Wednesday, April 13, 2005
By JEFFREY MIZE, Columbian staff writer

Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor and Democratic presidential candidate, lived up to his reputation Tuesday night as a man willing to speak his mind. Dean told about 1,100 people at Skyview High School that he did not come to Clark County in his capacity as newly elected chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

"I do, however, intend to be partisan," he said at the start of his 37-minute speech. He didn't disappoint the largely pro-Democratic crowd, which gave Dean a standing ovation before he spoke a single word.

Dean, who delivered his remarks without notes or prepared text, said he believes "this country's democracy is in some danger."

"We are a place that other people used to look to until we got this president," he said. "For the first time in my lifetime, we are faced with an administration that doesn't believe facts matter."

Before his speech was over, Dean had criticized Republicans for caring about children only before they are born, not afterward, and had lambasted President Bush for excluding people who don't share his views from his town hall meetings.

"The president of the United States, at taxpayers' expense, goes around the country trying to sell Social Security (reform), and he won't let anyone in who doesn't agree with him," he said. "The taxpayer is the boss, and therefore every one of them has the right to give their opinion to the president of the United States."

"Ed Weber, director of WSU's Foley Institute, told the audience before Dean began speaking that organizers will invite a well-known Republican to deliver next year's speech. He offered two names: Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker from Georgia, and Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser and architect of his two victorious presidential elections.

The mere mention of Rove's name triggered an onslaught of boos from the audience....."

[sendero]

36. Aw, he walked out..

.... good, he was wasting valuable oxygen, the sack o' sh*t.

[Cha]

37. This is good!

"Next year, organizers hope to book either former U.S. Rep. Newt Gingrich or Karl Rove, the high-ranking staff member in the current Bush administration.

The suggestion drew boos and hisses from the crowd."

[saltpoint]

38. Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove for next year?

Well god knows there isn't a damn thing partisan about THAT.

Good for Dean and good for the people in the audience who gave him welcome.

I feel much better with Dr. Dean in the Chair's spot.

[mzmolly]

39. That's my man!

:toast: Thanks for keeping us posted!

[leesa]

40. BooHoo. Poor widdle baby. Republicans are such pouty, whiny wimps

[madfloridian]

41. They called us whiners so long. I love calling them that.

I intend to use that word quite often.

[IronLionZion]

42. Awww poor baby,

I wonder how many Democrats are allowed at Bush events?

And it looks like this group books partisan people from both parties each year. They're trying to get Newt or Rove for next year.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

43. It's about damn time

We need more Dems like Dean who have the balls to point out the flaws in the conservative agenda. I'm tired of Dems rolling over and giving in to the R's in gesture's of "bi-partisanship".

[Roland99]

44. "It was not supposed to be a Democratic event."

I wonder if he walked out on the MANY Propagandist events that were nothing but thinly veiled campaign stops or back-slapping visits.

[madfloridian]

45. Kick

:kick:

[BrklynLiberal]

46. Boo hoo..whiny crying baby...had to run out..

Hooray for Dr Dean....tell'em where to go!!!

[Amy6627]

47. We must get rid of the root of the problem which is Corporate

Person-hood. I am forming a Reclaim Democracy chapter in San Diego. I wish everyone would get on this bandwagon. It really is a non-partisan issue that both Repukes and Dems should unite and fight against. Why should corporations be allowed to contribute to political campaigns, they can't vote? The Supreme Court decided in 1886 that because the 14th amendment made people out of property (slaves were considered property) that means Corporations were now persons. So if they are persons, they have the protection of the 1st amendment of free speech. Since they don't have a mouth, then money is their speech. Check out these two websites:

http://www.thomhartmann.com/unequalprotection.shtml

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/personhood/

[Dr Fate]

48. AWWW- baby had his fewings hurt. n/t

n/t

[Clarkie1]

49. Of course Dean "got partisian"

in order to "talk about civil discourse." Republicans don't engage in civil discourse; Democrats do.

Any discussion of civil discourse in America must include that discussion.

[XemaSab]

50. Who the hell cares

what an ex-state senator from a whole different state thinks?

Apparently not the good people of Vancouver, Washington who voted his ass out.

Dean the Man!