Anyone else catch * insinuating that he and the Pope are 2 of a kind?

[CoffeeCat]

Commenting on the Pope's death, Smirkypants had this to say:

"Laura and I join people across the Earth in mourning the passing of Pope John Paul II. The Catholic Church has lost its shepherd, the world has lost a champion of human FREEDOM, and a good and faithful servant of God has been called home."

"Freedom" is Bush's code word. How many times did he use it during his inauguration speech---was it 46? Bush says "Freedom" repeatedly, to describe his over-reaching, murderous policies.

When * said "Freedom" in his speech about the Pope, he really punched it--as if to emphasize that the Pope was for "FREEDOM"--insinuating that *'s sick agenda is in line with the Pope's works and somehow sanctioned by the Pope.

Bush's words struck me as the ultimate self-serving moment. It was as if he was attempting to justify his steamrolling, violent, corrupt, murdering tactics--by claiming that the Pope was for "freedom" just as Bush is.

I don't know if anyone else caught this in Bush's speech, but I did and it nauseated me.

[fooj]

1. Yes. He is a shameless hypocrite!

The world knows where Pope JPII stood on the death penalty, the war in Iraq...
The Italians just pulled their troops out of Iraq- we KNOW how THEY feel...
Self-serving, evil, maniacal madman! That just about does it!

Peace!

[jojo54]

2. Someone once said

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home". I don't remember who said it, but it seems to ring very true in our case.

[AverageJoe]

3. John Paul II thought Bush was the Anti-Christ

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880


Pope fears Bush is antichrist, journalist contends - Church - journalist Wayne Madsden - Brief Article



WASHINGTON DC -- According to freelance journalist Wayne Madsden, "George W Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs and his constant references to 'evil doers,' in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ."

Madsen, a Washington-based writer and columnist, who often writes for Counterpunch, says that people close to the pope claim that amid these concerns, the pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament.

<snip>

[coloradodem2005]

4. God.

Yeah. We know how the evangelicals feel about the Catholics.

[Erika]

5. John Paul was for the poor and the needy and against war

There is nothing in common with Bush.

[Maraya1969]

6. I caught it - notice he never said the word "Peace"?

Yes, he uses the words "freedom" "democratic revolution" "culture of life". And he said the Pope talked to the US about Liberty and OUR Declaration of Independence. He did not mention that the Pope tried to talk him out of going to war, that the Pope accomplished everything in a PEACEFUL manner.

And then he says THIS, (in a eulogy type of speech)


"It is these truths, he said, which have led people all over the world to look to America with hope and respect."





The speech was all about Bush and his agenda. Just Sick.


The transcript:





"The Catholic Church has lost its shepherd. The world has lost a champion of human freedom, and a good and faithful servant of God has been called home.



"Pope John Paul II left the throne of St. Peter in the same way he ascended to it -- as a witness to the dignity of human life. In his native Poland, that witness launched a democratic revolution that swept Eastern Europe and changed the course of history.



"Throughout the West, John Paul's witness reminds us of our obligation to build a culture of life, in which the strong protect the weak.



"And during the Pope's final years, his witness was made even more powerful by his daily courage in the face of illness and great suffering.



"All popes belong to the world, but Americans had special reason to love the man from Krakow. In his visits to our country, the pope spoke of our providential Constitution, the self-evident truths about human dignity in our Declaration (of Independence), and the blessings of liberty that follow from them.



"It is these truths, he said, which have led people all over the world to look to America with hope and respect. Pope John Paul II was himself an inspiration to millions of Americans and to so many more throughout the world.



"We will always remember the humble, wise and fearless priest who became one of history's great moral leaders. We are grateful to God for sending such a man, a son of Poland who became the bishop of Rome and a hero for the ages."

[RevCheesehead]

17. The "selective memory" of the blivet proves to me he is a fundy.

<"The Catholic Church has lost its shepherd. The world has lost a champion of human freedom, and a good and faithful servant of God has been called home.>
Freedom? The pope was all about freedom?

<"Pope John Paul II left the throne of St. Peter in the same way he ascended to it -- as a witness to the dignity of human life. In his native Poland, that witness launched a democratic revolution that swept Eastern Europe and changed the course of history.>
The dignity of life, apparently, does not apply to Iraqis, or those facing execution under the death penalty.

<"Throughout the West, John Paul's witness reminds us of our obligation to build a culture of life, in which the strong protect the weak.>
Make sure to keep someone's body alive at all costs (unless you don't have insurance). Just don't use stem-cells.

<"All popes belong to the world, but Americans had special reason to love the man from Krakow. In his visits to our country, the pope spoke of our providential Constitution, the self-evident truths about human dignity in our Declaration (of Independence), and the blessings of liberty that follow from them.>
The office of the papacy belongs to God, not man. (Jesus said "my kingdom is NOT of this world.")
Popes (sic) are IN the world, but not necessarily OF the world.

<"It is these truths, he said, which have led people all over the world to look to America with hope and respect. Pope John Paul II was himself an inspiration to millions of Americans and to so many more throughout the world.>
Yup, the Pope sure loved us 'Murkins.

<"We will always remember the humble, wise and fearless priest who became one of history's great moral leaders. We are grateful to God for sending such a man, a son of Poland who became the bishop of Rome and a hero for the ages.">
no comment. Really. What can anyone say?

[jmcon007]

7. did you also notice when he said the powerful should protect the weak.

which I took to mean Schiavo. It really takes a scumbag like monkeyboy to politicize a euology.

[thecai]

10. I Also Took That Hypocritical Comment To Include

The poor and the needy, whom Bush HATES.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

8. I noticed it, too...

I pointed it out as the quote scrolled by on CNN's ticker. The Pope didn't champion human "freedom" the way * means it. He championed the poor and the ill and those whose lot in life is so horrible that only the promise of a loving God keeps them going on. And he did it regardless of the person's race or religion.

* can't even bring himself to say "poor" just like he can't bring himself to name one mistake he's ever made. Besides, there aren't any poor, are there? He never sees any on his trips or at his "town halls."

[radfringe]

9. he's the one-size-fits-all pResident

he's also "likened" himself to JFK, FDR and just about every president we've had ... except Hoover

besides -- he has a halo following him around to prove his "holiness"





if you've the stomach for it -- go to google images, type in "bush halo" to see more

[atommom]

14. Take away the halo in either one of those pics, and he looks

downright scary!

[Andromeda]

11. Dim Son was just pandering to his base again.

Monkey Boy DOES want to be remembered as a great religious leader just like the Pope.

His twisted mind set fits right in with very vocal religious zealots who seem to have captured so much media attention.

The cable new networks are bending over for well-known religious leaders like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, AS IF they were equals (shudder) to the Pope.

Bushes attempts to elevate himself would be amusing if it wasn't so frightening. The fundies believe the "end of days" are coming any time now. They are deluding themselves if they believe God would want them at His side in the after-life.

Jesus loved and accepted EVERYBODY, and not just a bunch of holier-than-thou hypocritical idiots who want to keep everybody dumbed down.

[REP]

12. Both Clever Politicians Against Gay and Women's Rights

Wojtiyla was not highly regarded in Poland when he was elevated to Archbishop; Bush was "misunderestimated" both as Governer and pResident. Both think personal religious beliefs should interfere with public policy in secular governments. They share common beliefs about what rights should be accorded to gays and women, and both are said to be liked by the common man and to have what is often called "the common touch." On the other hand, Wojtiyla merely talked about freedon while doing little to encourage it beyond talk, and Bush talks freedom while starting wars, so Bush has him beat on that score.

[flordehinojos]

13. AND DID YOU SEE POPPY REFERRING TO POPE JOHN PAUL THE SECOND AS POPE JOHN

PAUL "NUMBER TWO", in what may have been a sick allusion to his own son as NUMBER FORTY THREE AND HIMSELF AS NUMBER FORTY ONE? and a way of making a sick connection between the three of them?

SHAMELESS, SHAMELESS, SHAMELESS OLD F#RT!

[rodeodance]

15. Kerry, B. Clinton and Jr statements. Clinton puts Jr to shame

Statement from John Kerry



http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/record.cfm?id=235240
Washington, D.C. -- Senator John Kerry issued the following statement on the passing of Pope John Paul II.

"The Holy Father led the Catholic Church during some of the most challenging times the world has witnessed, and persevered through enormous suffering with inspirational dignity. Teresa and I were deeply saddened to hear of his passing."

"Drawing upon his enduring moral strength and conviction, Pope John Paul II advanced the cause of solidarity in his native Poland and helped to topple communism around the world. We will never forget the example he set by forgiving the man who tried to take his life, and by praying at the Western Wall to ask Jews for their forgiveness. He traveled to places forgotten by all but God to pray for the sick and the poor, and millions turned out to hear his voice, even when strained. In death, as in life, his incredible spirit provides every Catholic with strength and his memory provides us with wisdom. Teresa and I join people all over the world in mourning this tremendous loss. The Holy Father is in our prayers."



Clinton statement on the Pope



http://www.clintonfoundation.org/040205-nr-cf-st-on-the...

"Hillary and I are deeply saddened by the passing of His Holiness Pope John Paul II. In speaking powerfully and eloquently for mercy and reconciliation to people divided by old hatreds and persecuted by abuse of power, the Holy Father was a beacon of light not just for Catholics, but for all people. In more than 170 visits to over 115 countries, from the Balkans to the Middle East, from Central Africa to Asia, he was tireless in his efforts to defend human rights and human dignity. His remarkable journey from Wadowice, Poland to the Vatican played an important role in hastening the downfall of Communism. I will always treasure our five meetings in the U.S and the Vatican, especially the deep concern His Holiness expressed over the suffering of the Bosnians and of religious liberty throughout the world."

His Holiness is now at home with God, whom he served so faithfully for a lifetime."

Bush Comments: (quick transcript)
The world has lost a champion of human freedom. And a good and faithful servant of god has been called home. Pope John Paul II left the throne of St. Peter in the same way he ascended to it -- as a witness to the dignity of human lifE.

In his native Poland, that witness launched a democratic revolution that swept eastern europe and changed the course of history. Throughout the west, John Paul's witness reminded us of our obligation to build a culture of life, in which the strong protect the weaK. And during the pope's final years, his witness was made even more powerful by his daily courage in the face of illness and great suffering.

All Popes belong to the worlD. But Americans had special reason to love the man from krakow. In his visits to our country, the pope spoke of our prove denial -- provencial constitution, our declaration and the blessings of liberty that follow from them. It's these truths, he said, that led people all over the world to look to america with hope and respect.

Pope John Paul II was, himself, an inspiration to millions of Americans, and to so many more throughout the world. We will always remember the humble, wise, and fearless priest, who became one of history's great moral leaders. We're grateful to God for sending such a man, a son of Poland, who became the Bishop of Rome, and a hero for the ages.

[Mutley]

16. *'s lying ass

will never come close to what the Pope actually did for freedom... * is nothing but a lying sack of shit... pardon my language... it makes me so mad when i hear stuff like this from *...

errrreererrrr.... i can't even say anything else...

X( :mad: :puke: :argh:

[KalicoKitty]

18. "Go into Iraq and You Go Without God"-Pope John Paul

On Wednesday 5 March 2003, Pope John Paul II had a strong message for George W. Bush: God is not on your side if you invade Iraq. But Bush told the pope's envoy the leader of the world's Catholics is wrong.

Pleading for peace, an emissary from Pope John Paul II questioned Bush on whether he was doing all he could to avert what the envoy called an "unjust" war with Iraq.

Cardinal Laghi came bearing the pope's message: A war would be a "defeat for humanity" and would be neither morally nor legally justified.

The Pope also questioned the Bush's statements invoking God's name as justification for the invasion.


"George W Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs and his constant references to 'evil doers,' in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ." - Wayne Madsden

[Skidmore]

19. * does this with every figure who has some sort of

positive reputation at all. Remember he's also the reincarnations of Churchill and Reagan, to name a couple.