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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 08:30 PM
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ANWR Vote on Wednesday !!!!
VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

ANWR Vote on Wednesday
11 March 2005

I also read that budget resolutions can't be fillibustered. If anybody knows whether that is true, please post.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is a senior attorney for the Natural Resources Defense Council who sent out this red alert:

We have just learned that the U.S. Senate is likely to vote next Wednesday on a budget resolution that could doom the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to massive oil development and destruction.

That vote is now too close to call.

So the NRDC Action Fund is racing to produce a series of last-minute, hard-hitting print ads that will generate public pressure on those key senators whose votes could literally save the Arctic Refuge -- and its vulnerable populations of caribou, polar bears, white wolves and other rare wildlife.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=524

We CAN NOT FILIBUSTER this but we can speak out anyway, so please if you have not done so already, there are two action alerts on this thread (one NRDC and LCV) - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=448

Also on LUTD about ANWR: Kerry pledges to fight Bush on Alaska oil
Senator urges battle for environment against energy plan - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=515



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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 08:50 PM
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1. unbelievable!
They can't be stopped.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:05 PM
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2. This is outrageous! They are doing it because they CAN! Any Senator that
votes on this budget as is (even if the ANWR portion wasn't in it) is a traitor to the people of this country! This budget is an abomination!

I plan on calling every Senator I can! Anyone Dem that votes for this budget is a traitor to the Democratic Party and I'll do everything I can to fight that person's re-election someday. Any Republican that votes for it will have it on their hands that they single handedly approved the destruction of important programs that help their constituents and destroying this beautiful untouched land....
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:51 PM
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3. thanks for the heads up!
Let's make sure it doesn't happen!! :mad:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:56 PM
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4. The NYTimes had a story a couple of weeks ago
that Big Oil doesn't even really want to drill in ANWR. The Rethugs are doing this solely to stuff the Dems and show them that they have the power to do whatever they want. It's just an 'in your face' power move. Bastards.

I will contact my Senators, Kerry and Kennedy, ahm, okay, I'll contct your Senators and pretend to be a constituent. Who has a Senator that needs persuading. Tell me and I'll contact them.

So, how long before the Retugs use the 'nuclear option.' At this rate, I'm betting we don't make it through April.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 10:23 PM
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5. Budget resolutions can't be filibustered. ANWR would require only 51 votes
to pass as an amendment to the budget resolution. Right now, no one knows which way it will go. President Carter is lobbying Mary Landrieu to vote against drilling in ANWR; she has voted for opening this national wildlife refuge before along with both Democratic Senators from Hawaii, Akaka and Inoyue.

NRDC, where Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is a senior attorney, is raising money to put ads on in their states to let people know this will come up for a vote probably on Wednesday and to contact their senators and tell them NO to drilling in ANWR.


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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 10:25 PM
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6. This will blow up in their faces.
Even the fucking morons who have to drive their goddamned Hummer H2 three blocks to the 7-11 for a pack of smokes (and may not give a shit about the environment) will take notice when gas prices hit $2.50 a gallon this summer and $3.00 next year.

Invading Middle Eastern countries and destroying wildlife refuges doesn't make a lot of sense if the gas never gets cheaper. So they will be ripped apart by their own if they go through with this horseshit.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 11:12 PM
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7. I sure hope this helps
lower gas prices. I'm tired of depending on Mid-East oil.
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 02:02 AM
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8. It won't do much to lower oil prices.
The quantity that it would bring on is small when considering world production. Any changes in price would result in OPEC reducing supply. It would mean that the jobs extracting oil would stay in America. Royalties would also go to the Alaskan government. The costs are as others have expressed.


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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 08:25 AM
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9. Not even going to be used in the USA
That oil is earmarked for somewhere else, isn't it?
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lostinacause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:28 AM
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14. It doesn't really matter where the oil is expected to go.
The net effect is still the same. Canada for instance imports around 60% of the oil it consumes and exports around 60% of the oil it produces. This happens because of transportation costs. The number that is the most relevent is the net exports.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 09:37 AM
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10. Fax Congress Now! Tell Them to Keep ANWR Drilling Out of the Budget Bill!
http://www.nrdcaction.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=...



Congressional proponents of drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge will likely try to slip a provision opening the refuge to drilling into the upcoming budget bill (perhaps as early as this Wednesday.) Tell your senators and representative to keep Arctic Refuge drilling provisions out of the budget bill.

http://www.nrdcaction.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=...
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 03:38 PM
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11. Important ANWR facts from Dailykos and the National Wildlife Federation
One More Time from the National Wildlife Federation:

-The 1.5 million acre coastal plain where oil drilling is proposed is the most biologically productive part of the Refuge.

-The Refuge is home to thousands of calving caribou, denning polar bears, roaming grizzlies, and rare muskoxen.

-Northern pintail ducks, mallards, tundra swans and white fronted geese are among the many migratory species known to inhabit the coastal plain during the year.

-According to the US Geological Survey and the oil industry, it would take at least a decade to tap any oil from the Refuge.

-95% of Alaska's Arctic coastal lands are already available for oil exploration including the National Petroleum Reserve (the size of Indiana).

-Refuge oil will make no difference in prices at the pump. The amount of oil would be such a small percentage of daily world oil production that it would have no effect on the globally established price of oil.

-Audubon Society: The impact of the drilling operations would extend far beyond the 2,000 acres stated in the law. Road building, gravel pit excavation, and pipelines would create a spider web of encroachments on the entire coastal Refuge.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/12/121943/715

And this...

"Gee," said the exploiters, "we're only going to drill in 2000 acres of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge."  Yes, and No. Yes the "development would be confined to 2,000 acres" but those don't have to be contiguous acres.

From the Audubon Society Magazine:

"---the sprawling network of roads and pipelines required to connect all these (oil and gas) facilities, plus eight 150 acre mines that would provide gravel for processing pads and docks, aren't counted.  Audubon Alaska and the Alaska Coalition which includes 700 groups dedicated to protecting the State's public land, created a hypothetical scenario for development on the coastal plain: It would leave a spider web of sizeable prints throughout the plain--yet would still technically meet the letter of the law. The map is based on the infrastructure of existing oil fields (and assumes a four mile directional drilling reach from each site and on data showing probable oil distribution across the plain.

A 2003 review by the National Academy of Sciences concluded that the impact on wildlife and vegetation would extend far beyond immediate oil field footprints."
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 04:17 PM
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12. I'm going to start posting in POLITICS
See Senator Boxer's call for support for her ANWR protection bill in GENERAL (it has all of 2 replies since 1PM).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3263123
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 04:18 PM
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13. self-deleted
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 04:23 PM by paineinthearse
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