Condi Rice Confirmation Debate - Thread #11 - #1 for 26 January 2005

[goobergunch]

Thread 10 can be found at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1530383

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The Senate is currently in a quorum call, awaiting the next speaker.

[realFedUp]

1. What a good idea....one thread on these...

:-)

[goobergunch]

2. Moment of silence for the soldiers killed in today's helicopter crash now

Since it's still "Morning Business", they don't have to talk about the Rice nomination until formal debate resumes at 10:30 AM Eastern.

[Skidmore]

8. They've had more than one of these this morning and everytime

one of those gonzos gets up there and ask for a moment of silence in sepulchural tones, I want to scream. None of these lives would have been lost if they hadn't sanctioned a lie. None of these people would be dead if they hadn't handed a blank check to * and abrogated their constitutional duty. Both sides of the aisle simply sicken me.

[Goldeneye]

3. That stupid Mccain....

we should send him some dead flowers. Who heard him say that the dems were only postponing confirmation because they were bitter about the election? What a dumb ass. Of course we're bitter, but the reason they're stalling confirmation is because Condi is a miserable failure and didn't deserve to be promoted.

[Pirate Smile]

4. Did anyone ever figure out what happened with John Kerry? I see on

C-span it says Biden, Boxer and Byrd (lovely alliteration) but I still haven't heard anything about what happened with JK.

[goobergunch]

5. Good question.

He's not on the list of Senators to speak today that I posted last night.

There's a statement against Rice on his website, though....

[cali]

7. Where can I find that list? Thanks. n/t

[goobergunch]

10. Clicky

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1531438&mesg_id=1531438

[Blue Christmas]

82. Biden, Boxer and Byrd = The Killer B's!

it would be more apt if Biden backed up his bombastic rhetoric with actual votes, however...

[goobergunch]

6. Babbling about the "pain of unborn children" - somebody from KS

(I'm at school, and I can only get the audio version - don't recognize the voice)

Bleh. Would they get on with it already? Enough with the abortion restrictions already....

[MuseRider]

9. It is Brownback

and Bleh discribes him perfectly.

[nickinSTL]

11. aren't abortions generally done

before 20-weeks of gestation anyway?

What is the point?

[izzybeans]

13. Just claim the fetus fought the doctor

"Hey doc I don't like needles, Get away from there!"

Funny, when my son was born he didn't fight the needle. Surprisingly he didn't know what a needle was enough to fear it.

This guys a big bag of :puke:

[goobergunch]

12. Comparing it to the "Partial-Birth Abortion Act"

I wonder if it's the same degree of unconstitutionality? :P

[goobergunch]

14. Brownback finally STFU - Senator from Virginia now up

praising Brownback :puke:

now making a motion for division of time - it's hard to hear at school because I have the volume way down, but I think Byrd's time was given to somebody else

[izzybeans]

18. To lieberman of all people.

then he said the dems yeild back all time. What did that mean?

[goobergunch]

19. That means morning business is over

And the formal debate begins.

Bleh....not more Lieberman....:grr:

[izzybeans]

26. Bleh's right...

Good. I thought that was it. --the morning business that is.

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. LIEBERMAN is speaking instead of Byrd???!!!

NO!!!! Maaaaan. I was so looking forward to Byrd's speech. I just can't take any more of Lieberman's drooling love fest. :(

[izzybeans]

38. Yep, but only four 5 minutes.

Better question if Biden's confirming why does he have 20 minutes when others only have five minutes? frankly he's wasting time trying to justify himself rather than engage in productive debate.

[realFedUp]

15. George Allen on his calling for the absence of criticism...n/t

[realFedUp]

17. yeah George, seems to me during Bosnia Republicans couldn't

diss Clinton and that war enough...

So easy for these guys to forget.

[goobergunch]

16. And....it's the usual ad hominem attack!

"Overly partisan" and that the accountability was determined in the '04 election result!

So we have to shut up because we lost the election? Please. :puke:

[realFedUp]

lol....the barking dogs

what a joke.

[E_Smith]

20. Allen accusing Dems of fundraising! horse shit!

[realFedUp]

22. and politicking....can you imagine!

geez, is he the best they have at this?

[CWebster]

21. More chastising of Dems for expecting accountability.

and the expectation of no criticism because Bush win.

Amazing how, partisan charge applies to only Dems not goose stepping along, but not Repugs obstructing open and honest discussion.

[nickinSTL]

23. Allen - don't question the competence of the nominee

for Secretary of State during wartime...

idiot. During a war is the most important time to be sure the Sec of State is competent.

[realFedUp]

24. No Mr. Allen, what must end are the lies and liars

That is what we are standing up for.
All real Americans should be asking
for the same.

[realFedUp]

25. Do Republicans have any standards anymore?

Doesn't seem so.

[izzybeans]

27. exactly n/t

[realFedUp]

28. Someone in the back room worked all night again

Reworking the same hash they presented
on Condi yesterday.

While having a wonderful CV makes one
qualified, a record of lies and policies
that led to thousands of dead and $300
billion in costs would never be hired
for that job in the real world.

[realFedUp]

29. Lugar off the floor

I'd love the floor to yield to some
of these guys....

[babylonsister]

30. FINALLY! He probably has to go wash his mouth out now.

[realFedUp]

32. Biden's on the plate

Ok, he's already voted in committee for Rice...

let's hear this one.

[hilster]

33. but he voted against Gonzales

!

[realFedUp]

41. Did the Judiciary committee already vote on Gonzales?

What was the final vote?

I consider Rice as bad a liar as Gonzales is.

[hilster]

64. I don't know

Biden just announced in his speech that he voted against A.G.

[buzzard]

35. Is he suggesting that the president will need to be investigated. n/t

[CWebster]

36. What's the point?

I wish they would put a tighter leash on this guy. He puts a sleazy, dissembling face on the party. And his face is everywhere.

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. Lets keep a list of the sellouts. Shall we? Biden, Lieberman, Feinstein

who else do we know so far?

[sabra]

37. Biden: Gonzo No, Condi Yes. Why?

[hilster]

39. yes...with frustration and reservations

[CWebster]

40. Because

Biden always plays both sides.

[sabra]

43. Seems that way...

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. Bingo.

This shit really pisses me off. No president is "entitled" to have the cabinet they pick. If Biden has reservations he should be voting NO. :grr:

[cyberpj]

42. I believe it's because he's on the Foreign Relations committee

who (is supposed to) work very closely with Sec. of State and he knows she'll be approved.

He's actually my Senator - and I'm writing to say he was wrong to vote yes while listing so many reasons why he shouldn't -- it's ridiculous, and it isn't like they will forgive him for voting yes after trashing her anyway.

[JerseygirlCT]

54. I think you're right. He's hoping to influence her future

(bad) decisions positively. I'm assuming she's as vicious with a grudge as her boss.

[nickinSTL]

44. Biden - Condi's a liar

Working to cover the lies of the Bush Administration...

But she's still ok to be SoS.

:puke:

[realFedUp]

45. Oh come on Biden....blaming reasons for invasion all on the "intelligence"

So convenient for all these guys to pass
the responsibility on...

Why don't you question the Office of Special Plans,
one of Rummy's little secret "intelligence" cooking
groups.

[realFedUp]

47. The Bushies cooked the "intelligence" Mr. Biden

This guy has also been in the Senate
too long...

[realFedUp]

48. gads, telling the gold watch and chain story again.....n/t

[sabra]

49. It's like Allen with the nectar obsession....

[hilster]

50. I noticed that too

guess it didn't get across the first time

[cyberpj]

52. Truthfully - MOST of 'em have been there too long - I want term limits

but have no idea how to get them since the ones i want to limit are the ones to vote on it.

[realFedUp]

53. I don't believe in term limits, but some adjustment in party politics

Since the Dem party keeps supporting these guys
with money and rhetoric, a third party or
very active grassroots Dem org has to challenge
them.

[cyberpj]

56. Why not? We limit the office of President - why not Congress?

It would help put a stop to the long term buddy buddy relationships between our representatives and their money pals.

How else to get fresh faces and fresh ideas on the move?

[realFedUp]

51. I'm surprised I still have hair on my head....

Such a disconnect between real Americans
and our representation.

[realFedUp]

55. Biden has no confidence in future with Condi but will vote for her anyway

Where do you draw your line Senator?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

60. I wonder what Rove has on Biden???? n/t

[realFedUp]

67. Biden just seems to be this way...no rocking his gravy train.

[realFedUp]

57. Comparing second marriage to voting for Condi in hopefullness

yeah, except we'll be stuck with the same
lying wife....

[realFedUp]

58. Senator Boxer is on the plate again!

yyyyyeeeeeeahhhhhhhhh.

[realFedUp]

62. She said that what she is doing is not about winning a vote

It's about telling the truth as she sees it.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. Yeahhhhhhhhhhh 2!!!! n/t

[paineinthearse]

78. "How can we stand up and be proud if we do not defend out Constitution"?

Barbara rocks!

[greyXstar]

59. Is it 'opposition' yet?

I'm so sick of these spineless Democrats I can't take it anymore!!! WTF is the point of blasting her for 20 minutes and then voting for her?? If you have 'reservations', then you shouldn't give her the job!! :mad:

[CWebster]

66. True and he delivered it without enthusiasm. nt

[cyberpj]

72. I agree with you - BUT - politics being what it is - he won't vote against

her because he's on the Foreign Relations committee which has to work very closely with Sec of State.

That's just stupid because she won't remember the vote for as much as she'll remember all he said.

[SaveAmerica]

Is anyone else having trouble with C-Span? I'm getting a message

that due to popular demand I can't access the link or something like that.

[realFedUp]

65. no problem here...maybe your cable provider?

Give em hell.

[SaveAmerica]

79. Finally got it, just in time to hear Boxer 'this war matters'

[selmo7]

69. Keep trying

off and on that message is coming up - streaming overload.

[selmo7]

124. deleted

[CWebster]

70. Try the other option

Windows or Real Player

[ElsewheresDaughter]

116. yes c-span is being overloaded today and i can't get in either

[hilster]

61. ooh, Boxer

[selmo7]

68. you don't go into a second marriage

based on lies and doubts Joe -

other than that metaphor (which certainly doesn't make any sense to me), I appreciate Joe Biden's contribution to the debate. I think he's going to vote with said reservations because the fix is in.

[Rose Siding]

77. Who cares about any "fix"?

Or how sad he is? He is giving away too much. ALL he gets is some stale phrasing in yet another vainglorious floor speech about how he supported the pres. Useless, laughable opposition party member.

[realFedUp]

71. Why don't Republicans believe in the Constitution?

Why don't Republicans want the troops to come home?
Why are Republicans willing to bankrupt our country to
remain in Iraq?

Boxer isn't saying this stuff...I'm just asking.

[CWebster]

74. line their own pockets and feather their own nests. nt

[CWebster]

84. Wonder what country joe represents?

Listen, he argues against his own party.

[realFedUp]

73. Rice's "lack of candor"

So polite...she's a fricking liar.

[realFedUp]

75. but of more concern to Republicans....are there blowjobs going on

in the oval office?

[anarchy1999]

76. Thank God at least a few a telling the truth. Go Senator Boxer!

Why I'm voting no! ...I gave her every opportunity, I asked her five questions\

She continues to put out these misstatements.

I think it is bad for the Senate and I think it's bad for the American People

Responsibility matters,

Accountability matters.


Anarchy1999 apologizes to all, I'm no good at dictation. No shorthand, can't keep up.

[paineinthearse]

80. Liebercon

Please, CT DU'ers, dump this neocon in out midst.

[Pirate Smile]

83. Why won't he just shut up? You already said what you thought and some

people don't agree. Go away.

[Blue Christmas]

107. I know...

and now Lugar just credited him :eyes:

[realFedUp]

81. LIEberman up at bat

Joe said he still thinks Rice
is qualified...

[hilster]

85. Lieberman:

Boxer said Rice was qualified as well

[cthrumatrix]

86. Joe is on the "payroll".... his opinion is irrelevant... he has blood on

his hands for not fighting for truth from day one !

[SaveAmerica]

89. "just upset about the administration"

That's putting it a little too mildly

[feminazi]

87. joe still thinks he's a democrat, too.

but he's deluded.

i can't stand the man. almost makes me want to move back to CT to vote against his sorry ass.

[hilster]

90. he was just joking with Jon Stewart the other day

about how he was going to try to be happy with other Dem's.

[greyXstar]

92. Only one real Democrat spoke today

Joe wants to give them 'the benefit of the doubt'? They've lied about everything for four years!!

[realFedUp]

88. Joe says don't look at past mistakes...look at a hopeful now

Did he read the news today?

Questioning and examining a job applicant
on their past judgements
and statements or mistatements is one
of the ways someone is judged for their
future actions....

What a PNAC Ho Joe is.

[hilster]

91. Domenici (R) thanking Lieberman

for his broad views. ugh

[CWebster]

93. and lecturing Dems again nt

[E_Smith]

97. Using Powells reputation to defend Condi

'got information from the same source as everyone when he presented to UN'

problem is, looks like Powell lied too.

[grumpy old fart]

94. Dominici more upset by calling Condi & Bush liars...

than the lying itself.....what a fool.

[realFedUp]

96. It is refreshing to hear a Republican use the L word....

:-) if the word fits, you must admit.

[grumpy old fart]

101. Did this idiot even watch the committee hearing with Rice???

Boxer documented, time and again, the lies leading up to war. Geez

[BR_Parkway]

100. His strategy of asking if we think Powell lied to the UN is probably

not the best arguement he could have made.

So, now those who call Condi a liar are lying?

[E_Smith]

109. I think its probably the best argument they've made

simply because Powell's reputation is still intact among most people (not here I know).

[realFedUp]

95. This discussion on the Senate floor is also useful in discussing Iraq

and flawed decisionmaking and the lies
told to invade Iraq.

[buzzard]

98. They can't own up to lies and Colin Powell I believe felt dirty

for following the faulty logic and misrepresentation of the facts.

[grumpy old fart]

104. Powell hearing would have been fascinating....

Imagine Powell having to defend lies.....would he keep spouting the "125,000 troops" B.S.?

[buzzard]

108. I think he took his duty as a soldier to the extreme in defending this

administrations policies.

[CWebster]

111. at the cost of his international reputation. nt

[feminazi]

99. pete must be referring to the OSP.

i think he protests too much.

[TayTay]

102. They are liars

Domenici is pissed that Dems called out Condi and the Admin as liars. HaHaHA. Not used to someone standing up to them. We have got to make sure we have Boxer's back. The Rethugs re really going to go after her.

[E_Smith]

106. correct...

we've heard them call this partisan politics, deplorable fundraising, etc.... unbelievable. but they know the dittoheads will follow their lead.

[realFedUp]

103. Reid and Frist supposedly will make comments

[realFedUp]

105. Lugar on the plate again...what, no plastic fetuses?

[SaveAmerica]

110. I'm not sure but it sounds like he's saying Boxer and Kerry will be

responsible for giving the insurgents power to continue attacking because of the division they're causing in the Senate. Deja vu.

[realFedUp]

113. and giving us insurgents some hope in the truth...n/t

[realFedUp]

112. Lugar asks for sheep behavor today

Join together and validate Ms. Rice's
past "lack of candor" and policies
that have rewarded this country with
a further erosion of respect, further
deficits, lives.

Yeah Ms. Rice deserves another chance
to really fuck up this country.

[realFedUp]

114. Make a fricking tv movie out her life...just don't let her represent us

in the world.

[rodeodance]

115. Biden sits on the fence most of the time

[rodeodance]

117. Reid, Dem Maj. leader up now

[CWebster]

120. Republicans attempt to "stiffle debate"

finally, someone said it.

[rodeodance]

121. defending the right of Senators to debate issues. "Deliberative" body

[SaveAmerica]

126. Sweet, 'shut up and vote is not democracy' n/t

[cbear70]

127. hear,hear

I am glad that Reid spoke up and defended those who are debating... I ,even though I didn't agree with Biden, am glad he addressed the issue on no as well. I am so tired of the rhetoric from the republican side.

[realFedUp]

118. Reid said he's disappointed Republicans berating the debate on Rice

Why don't Republicans respect the Constitution?

[realFedUp]

122. Senator Reid said the Senate is a deliberative body

Silence is not an American value and
especially for this very important job.

[Pirate Smile]

119. I'm really starting to like Harry Reid. He is upset with Republicans for

attacking the Democrats who wanted to debate.

[buzzard]

128. Shut up and vote is not democracy

[rodeodance]

133. says est. of 42 troops died last 2 days--Senators should not rubberstamp

[JoMama49]

135. The Senators voting "no" have been critized for not rubber

stamping Condi! You go Senator Reid!

[CWebster]

141. and not "rubber stamping"

I remember him reading his book during the filibuster.

He can bee very tough and determined.

Does he have last word, because he is really sizing it up beautifully--

[sabra]

123. Rethug Senator talking in the background, not giving Reid respect...

[Pirate Smile]

125. "Shut up and vote is not democracy" Harry Reid - nice

[coreystone]

129. Reid - "Shut-up and vote is not Democracy"!!!!! eom

[feminazi]

132. i loved that

give 'em hell, harry.

[cbear70]

134. exactly... n/t

[tanyev]

130. "Shut up and vote is not democracy."

Nice.

[underpants]

131. Reid:"Shut up and vote is not a part of Democracy"

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

145. Frist: Rice 'obvious qualifications" have never been in doubt (partisian

campaign has been waged agaist Condi--so says Frist.

[realFedUp]

136. Very good and appropriate speech by Harry Reid...n/t

hell, these people take four hours to
talk about what they want at their
Christmas lunch.

[hilster]

137. Go, Reid, Go!

people take longer to buy a car than to debate on C. Rice. haha

[sabra]

140. Reid: "Shouldn't we spend a 4 hour debate, on such a huge decision?"

[selmo7]

138. Reid: Shut up and vote is not democracy!

[realFedUp]

139. Cat killer back on plate

[buzzard]

143. What is the cat killer reference? n/t

[realFedUp]

154. There are articles about his buying cats at shelters and killing them

when he was either first in med school or later
for research.
Sorry, I don't have the facts at my fingertips.
Someone else will.

[cbear70]

149. are you kidding me

OMG... he makes me sick... this is not partisan politics.. someone needs to smack him:mad:

[hilster]

142. Frist - first black american woman

[realFedUp]

144. a war not of our making.....

a war for political ends and resources.

[realFedUp]

146. VOTES now....nt

[realFedUp]

148. as soon as anyone knows which Senators voted against her...let us know

[JoMama49]

150. So now, Frist, with absolutely no respect for Senator Reid says

"Okay, now shut up and vote!"

[rodeodance]

152. so--who, then made this war?? if not us??--the birds?

[tanyev]

147. "Partisanship has its time and place"

But only when Republicans do it apparently.

[feminazi]

151. cat killer is calling the debate partisan.

says we're in a time of war.

a war she helped lie us into, of course. he doesn't understand the irony in that, i suppose.

[Nordmadr]

153. Damn it! Can't here the vote responses! N/T

[rodeodance]

Boxer, kennedy, and Levin voted NO thus far --continuing

[feminazi]

157. so far only 3 dems have voted against her

boxer, kennedy and levin

[cbear70]

162. no's??

I had a list of 6 yesterday.. where are they???
I had Dayton, Kennedy, Levin, Bayh, Boxer, Byrd
why are there only 3??

[ralps]

160. so far Boxer, Kennedy, Levin voted no n/t

[Nordmadr]

242. I meant to write "hear" :) N/T

[hilster]

155. what happened to Kerry's "no"?

[sabra]

156. Hasn't voted...yet...

[SaveAmerica]

158. I don't think he's there

[SaveAmerica]

171. my bad, i misspoke, but i heard that's not a crime n/t

[rodeodance]

159. some were absent during first round--so they are going again

[rodeodance]

163. Feingold, Dem WI--said YES--sad

[rodeodance]

166. KERRY said NO as did Byrd (Dems)

[ralps]

165. Byrd, Kerry voted no

[hilster]

167. woot

[cbear70]

169. good!! n/t

[CWebster]

161. Leahy aye.

and I understand VT has a greater proportion of troops in Iraq.

[coreystone]

164. Yep! That boy deserves a letter...:-( eom

[feminazi]

168. kerry and byrd just voted no.

*

[rodeodance]

175. Reid and Durbin=NO

[rodeodance]

170. way way tooo many AYE's Jeffers said NO

[coreystone]

173. Jeffords NO!!!!! yEEEAAAAA! EOM

[ralps]

172. Jeffords voted no

[nickinSTL]

179. Reed (sp?) of RI and Durbin -no

n/t

[hilster]

174. Jeffords no

[hilster]

176. Reed and Durbin no

[rodeodance]

184. Dayton says NO: Feinstien YES, Accoka -NO

[ralps]

177. Reed of RI No, Durbin No

[cbear70]

180. yay!!!!

:bounce:

[Nordmadr]

178. Just because Rice

has an inspirational story of coming from humble beginnings and even has experience in the field, does not mean that she is qualified for the job and does not make her someone that should be deified before the public. If she is dishonest, secretive and follows policies that I do not support, I could give a shit if she knows how to play the piano. I am certain there were many Nazi's that came from humble beginnings and had musical talent and "culture" as well. Hitler was EVIL, but he was also a very intelligent and charismatic leader of his people.

How can we not "Monday Morning Quarterback"? We MUST base our decisions not only on someones paper qualifications, but also upon their actions and choices. She has chosen poorly and acted poorly... so obviously we have to promote her.

The insanity in this country is infuriating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know how much more of it I can take.

Olaf

[SaveAmerica]

185. i agree, well said n/t

[nickinSTL]

181. Didn't Boxer say something about

the most votes against a SoS nominee ever being 7?

There are 13 so far against Rice, if I counted right.

edited to add to 13 with further votes

[Nordmadr]

186. Yeah, but they are just being petty (sarcasm)!!! n/t

[ralps]

182. Dayton & Akaka no

[SaveAmerica]

196. Who is Akaka?

[ralps]

233. He's from Hawaii

[SaveAmerica]

241. Thanks n/t

[hilster]

183. Dayton and Akaka no

[rodeodance]

191. Bayh--NO

[JerseygirlCT]

187. Clinton and Schumer yes

[annabanana]

223. mortified, embarrassed and annoyed am I...

I know they're more 'corporate'... but what would have been the harm if they HAD stood on principle for once?

[coreystone]

188. CLINTON AND SCHUMER = YES ...

:-(

[ralps]

189. Bayh no

[hilster]

190. well, this is turning out better than January 6th

[rodeodance]

195. Laughtenberg NO

[rodeodance]

197. 12 NO votes so far

[cbear70]

192. more no's

There are alot more no's than I had expected.. wow...speaks volumes , I think.

clinton.. wtf????

[hilster]

198. many more no's than I expected

[JerseygirlCT]

193. Lautenberg no

[ralps]

194. Lautenberg no

[JerseygirlCT]

199. Anybody got a count? Where are we on nos?

[nickinSTL]

202. 12...see above messages

n/t

[JerseygirlCT]

211. Sorry - missed that one! Thanks

[JerseygirlCT]

200. Damn! Dodd yes

[Bill219]

205. arrgh!!!!!!!

Why did Dodd vote "yes"?

I will never vote for him again

[tanyev]

201. Why is it so noisy in the background?

[juajen]

210. Yeah, Harkin, No!!

N/T

[JerseygirlCT]

203. Chafee yes... Harkin no

[coreystone]

204. Harkin Nooooooooo! :-)

[cbear70]

208. yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

[ralps]

206. Harkin no

[hilster]

209. how many is that now?

[nickinSTL]

212. 13

n/t

[PeacePal]

213. 13 I think

[realFedUp]

218. more than I thought....yeah, Harkin

He would have made a good speech
on the floor...

[never cry wolf]

216. I think it's 13....n/t (damn, obama, aye)

[Eurobabe]

207. Harken no

[Eurobabe]

214. Obama yes

[JerseygirlCT]

215. Obama yes

[coreystone]

217. We didn't get Obama, disaponted! :-( eom

[Acryliccalico]

222. Me too

but Obama is a newbie.:kick:

[JerseygirlCT]

219. Yes 85/ no 13

[cbear70]

228. frist

It disgusts me that he thinks this speaks for all americans... so far from the truth.

[hilster]

220. 13 neas

[realFedUp]

The other Dr. of weapons of mass death was Dr. Kiss Kiss

and he got 7 Senators voting against him.
You can see now the destruction he left
behind.

[feminazi]

227. who are the 2 that didn't vote?

anyone know?

[ralps]

221. Vote 85 yes, 13 no

[Wabbajack]

224. 13!!!

Fuck I was thinking 35 or so.

[never cry wolf]

236. It is an historic No vote total

Typically a president gets most of his cabinet nominees without much problem.

Senators have cast "nay" votes against only five of the 30 people nominated to be America's top diplomat since the start of the 20th Century.

Henry Kissinger had the most opposition, drawing seven negative votes as President Richard Nixon's nominee in 1973 during the Vietnam War. Rice appeared likely to at least match Kissinger's total of negative votes.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0501260384jan26,1,3559584.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

[SaveAmerica]

225. How will history treat her as the first female African American SoS

when they add the additional information about what she's done?

[realFedUp]

238. Depends if people read below the fold

or the real facts that usually start at
paragraph 18.

[nickinSTL]

226. Final - 85 for, 13 against

Against:

Lautenberg
Boxer
Levin
Kennedy
Byrd
Jeffords
Reed
Durbin
Akaka
Bayh
Dayton
Harkin
Kerry
edited to add one I missed

[tanyev]

230. Reid?

[nickinSTL]

234. I didn't hear Reid's vote

did he vote no?

If he did, someone else on the list is wrong...

[hilster]

239. Reed (RI) voted no, Reid (NV) voted yes

[nickinSTL]

240. that's what I thought

n/t

[coreystone]

229. Did I miss Reid of NV???..

Boxer, Kennedy, Levin, Jeffords, Kerry, Byrd, Reed of RI, Durbin, Dayton, Bayh, Lautenberg, Harkin, and ???

[nickinSTL]

232. You're missing Akaka

of Hawaii

[coreystone]

235. Akaka------Thanks! ...Actually, I am surprized that 13 had the ...

intestinal fortitude to vote no.

[realFedUp]

237. stupid nomination of Jim Nicholson for head of Veteran Affairs

Akaka is endorsing him....

[realFedUp]

231. We all hope for a better future, but hold those who lied before

to be held accountable for those words and
deeds.

God bless Ms. Rice.