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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:19 AM
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Look out UK your next!
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 06:39 AM by GingerSnaps
Blair is getting ready to pull a Bush on you!

The British are more organized at fighting then us. Tony Blair aka Bush's Poodle is getting ready to be placed back into office. They have his polls numbers up to 40 some odd points. Here we go again, a hated man is liked by 1/2 of the country and well the other half will just have to believe that bullshit because they are not part of the religious moral voters.

Britain is different in one way and the way that they are different is they will not stand for the bullshit and they will come out and protest in record numbers when Blair is voted back in ;). When the British protested the Iraq War they were so many people marching that they said that it was close to 1 1/2 million people.

When Bush stole office we were in shock and a few of us marched but some of us had to watch our favorite TV show instead of marching or we had to work, go to class or we were too busy that night and most of us were in shock! Some of us figured that things would work them self out in the long run.

Why are we like this? Why are we complacent? :cry:

If we organized we would have so many people to fight for our cause which right now is our democracy and right to vote. The bureaucrats would have to cave in and listen to us because of the amount of people marching.

What is wrong with us? I don't mean this in a negative way I am hurting inside over it and I would like to dig further and find out why we are willing to accept things the way they are and think that they will change someday on their own.

Other countries fight back and one of the examples is the Ukraine fighting against their illegal election. Why is it that we can't do the same thing?

We have an disturbed man in office right now talking about the Ukraine illegal election. I believe that he is rubbing our stolen election in our face and that is why he is talking about it. :grr:

Why do we sit back and make excuses about being busy instead of marching in the streets? Can someone please help me with this issue I am torn up inside over this and I felt like dying the night of the election. My depression has not gone away and I am still hurting inside because I know deep down that we lost our country on 11/2. :cry:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:32 AM
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1. Blair will probably win the next election
without need for dirty tricks. He's pretty unpopular, but the conservative opposition is even less loved. Politics are in a poor state in this country, with both main parties in disarray. Historically this has sometimes allowed extreme factions into power. :scared:

One thing I should mention: Blair is prime minister of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland too. It's not just England, as your thread title says. Scots and Welsh understandably get upset about that sort of thing!
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:41 AM
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2. Sorry
I haven't slept right since our stolen election. Thanks for pointing that out :hug:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:43 AM
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3. Now you won't get flamed by irate Scotsmen
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 06:44 AM by billyskank
or Welshmen! Nobody wants that! ;)
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:50 AM
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4. " Aye"
Cheers luv :hug:
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:30 PM
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16. he may claim to be PM of Northern Ireland
but he isn't rightfully so as far as I'm concerned. The Brits have no more legitimacy to governing Northern Ireland than we would to be in charge of governing the Netherlands.
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:17 AM
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5. I couldn´t agree more...
especially when you say: "If we organized we would have so many people to fight for our cause which right now is our democracy and right to vote. The bureaucrats would have to cave in and listen to us because of the amount of people marching."

I´ve asked myself the same questions over and over again. How is this possible? You could scare the hell out of them if you just started organizing.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:25 AM
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6. We would have to schedule the march on a day that
6 Feet Under or Cold Case isn't on :D
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:34 AM
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7. there must be a day nothing interesting is on
;) I don´t really know if American people are just too lazy to do something or just don´t know where to start :s
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:51 AM
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8. some guesses
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 08:52 AM by m berst
Good question.

- 30 years of self-actualization and me-me-me selfishness and consumerism? (The Reagan effect)

- Altered and distorted sense of reality from watching cable news? (The CNN effect)

- Fragmented communities and suspicion and mistrust of each other? (suburbanization)

- High intake per capita of mood-altering drugs? (Prozac, etc.)

- Intense social pressure to conform and against being passionate and involvement and prizes cool aloofness and detachment? (why are you so obsessed with politics?)

- Fear?
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:54 AM
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9. Perfect timing don't you think
For a Dictatorship to be put into place.:scared:
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:02 AM
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10. you know....
Nice to meet you GS, by the way. I have read your posts for a long time but have never posted on the same thread. :hi:

One would have to think that it was merely a mater of common sense to see that there is a very real danger to our representative democracy right now.

What alarms me is not that there are so few people agreeing that there is a threat, rather that there are so few people willing to consider the possibility that there is a threat.

Mike
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:51 PM
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11. Thanks
There use to be a saying that went something like this. "You don't know what it's like until it hits home". Home to us could possibly mean our own personal self and home to someone in another country means their own country.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:44 PM
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12. Honey, I take a mood-altering drug every day
And it hasn't helped my mood re Bush one damn bit!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:20 PM
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14. Well,
that settles that! I was wondering if drugs would help - guess I'll save my money!
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:33 AM
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17. you guys are funny
No easy cure for this ailment, is there?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:57 PM
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13. I am praying that Blair wins next election. Now that there's enough
wealth in the middle class that's worth stealing, if the Tories win, there will be an economic crisis as the Tories try to rip off all that middle class wealth and give it to rich corporations.

It'll be like what Bush did to the US in 2001.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:27 PM
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15. Happened in Australia too!
Howard "won" the election and managed to walk away with control over the entire government. Didn't matter that the majority of Australia didn't support the war in Iraq.

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