Paul Begala to Dems -- Get Over It

[grasswire]

On Crossfire.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Dems to Paul: Stop bitching on Crossfire.

Get back into the game where you can ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, YOU FUCKING SHREW!

[LiberalFighter]

41. And stop saying that gw* is a nice guy

[grasswire]

2. he said...

....stop whining, start fighting for 2008.

He said Kerry didn't lose by 60,000 votes, he lost by 3.5 million.

[IndianaGreen]

53. The Electoral vote is what wins elections, not the popular vote

Begala is another DLC puke!

[Eloriel]

58. Uh, no, Paul. But I HAVE gotten thoroughly over YOU!

THere's no point in even thinking about, let alone working for, 2008 or even 2006 unless we fix these voting machines, and NOW.

[BootinUp]

3. Dems to Begala

Why don't you get a job you're good at!

[BlueEyedSon]

4. BlueEyedSon to Begala: STFU!

[Minstrel Boy]

5. Johnny Cash to Paul Begala:

[deutsey]

8. I concur

[okieinpain]

13. man that johnny really had a way with words.

[musette_sf]

18. I think that was Johnny's ad in the trades

after his album with Rick Rubin won a Grammy. It was his FY to the Nashville country music establishment.

Oh yeah, and Begala? Buh-bye.

[deutsey]

25. I loved Johnny Cash

One of a kind, he was. His music transcended the C/W genre.

I really admired him.

[sendero]

30. And note that Johnny...

... puts the balls on his bird as is correct, in sharp contrast to our fearless leader who shoots the nutless bird :)

[aquart]

6. I am amazingly unappreciative of that remark.

[Fridays Child]

12. And I am amazingly appreciative of your lack of appreciation.

:)

[Canadian_moderate]

7. I agree

Instead of whining and moaning, you must focus, strategize, discard your weaknesses and build on your strengths.

Whatever you do, don't give up hope.

[whalerider55]

15. mod-

good advice.

however, what's your advice when the game is rigged, when your strategy was good enough to bring you a victory,to win and win by a plurality but the votes don't get counted as cast?

i'm all ears, my friend.

whalerider55

[Canadian_moderate]

27. get more evidence and expose the fraud

If there was large scale fraud, the American people need to see the proof.

I think the reality is also that America's divide is huge and there are slightly more conservatives than liberals. Unfortunately they are breeding faster as well. I don't envy your task. I'm hoping education will work. I don't think America will be better served by having the Democrats move further left. You need to reach more out to reasonable moderates who may be scared off by the more left-wing fringe of the party.

Other than than, maybe secession would be an option?

[whalerider55]

34. mod

i live in New England. We're already contiguous. Should we align with Quebec or Ontario, or would you good northern folks allow us to bundle as a new province?

we could call ourselves New Englandio.

whalerider55

bookin' the train now

[Andromeda]

47. Hmm, I don't think there are more conservatives

than liberals. It just appears that way because the conservatives are better organized and get all the media attention.

Liberal, or progressives and even moderates need to get better at getting their message out. We're better at it now but we have a long way to go.

Conservatives have been working at getting control of the government for about 30 years while Democrats dozed.

Democrats can't gain control until they learn to be more assertive and vocal. You don't get anywhere by being nice all the time and turning the other cheek.

[JPace]

55. "Liberal, or progressives and even moderates need to get better at getting

the message out"

We need Air America in every American City and a cable news channel
for Democratic spin. Without this we cannot "get better at getting the message out". Wealthy Republicans pay for Repug media outlets. We need our Wealthy Democrats to do the same. So far I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate.

[Telly Savalas]

51. We need to start breeding more if we are going to outnumber the GOP

So let's get to it people!!!

:)

[Edmond Dantes]

57. When the other guy cheats, he changes the rules of the game.

That means we are free to do the same.

For example, I once held the view that one did not retaliate against the FAMILIES of one's political enemy. But since Rove went after Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, I am now of theopinion that Rove's family is fair game too. Wife, kid, siblings, in-laws--you name it!

[leesa]

40. Of course, Let's ignore the fraud and have the same fraud, only

bigger, NEXT time. What is this crap! Move on?? They stole another one and we shouldn't even want to discuss it?? What's there to move on too then? If we don't look at what happened here, there is no point in even putting up a candidate anymore.

Man, I am soooo sick of wimpy, appeasing Dems!

[JPace]

50. "discard your weaknesses"

Hmmmm....

I think our weaknesses are crooked voting machines.

[grasswire]

9. agghh!

Now he says "Democrats have gotten the message that we have to change our party in order to win."

He means, pander to the right.

[htuttle]

24. htuttle gets the message from Begala's message....

...that htuttle might need to change parties to stay sane.

ps. I'm obviously not going to be changing to Republican.

[Revolucionario83]

10. Screw Paul Begala

[Cheswick2.0]

11. sure Paul, sorry to threaten your gig

I'll stay real poor. You can continue to be rich doing the stupidest job on TV and I'll take direction from you about how I should react.

[Guava Jelly]

14. i stopped watching xfire after Jon stewart ripped them apart

That was the most honesty i have ever seen on that show...And carville can suck my nuts also

[qanda]

19. Me too

And it's so freeing. My blood pressure is lower, my house is cleaner, my children and husband are happier. It was the last show I made an effort to watch on cable news, and now I'm free from them all. Every now and then I turn the channels and happen to come across cable news, and it's like throwing up to remember not to drink.

[Justitia]

16. Begala ALWAYS advocates this position

It is his not-so-covert job as a DLC HACK.
This should surprise no one, I'm sure he has been practicing his lines for quite awhile.

Turn him off, he's as useless as Alan Colmes.

[Walt Starr]

17. Why is this candy assed peckerwood still on television?

Oh, he's on the Certainly No News network.

:eyes:

[DinahMoeHum]

20. Oh, Paul, blow it out your ass. You, too, Carville. . .

Boys, if you're really serious, then get the fuck outta that TV show and work the campaign yourself. Don't sit on the sidelines as a sideseat/backseat campaign manager.

Oh, and Carville, you need to get a divorce from Mary. She's no good for you.


:evilfrown:

[muse]

21. He's mad because he was willing to quit his job at CNN and work for the

Kerry campaign and when he told that to Mary Beth Cahill (he had been asked to do this by Kerry), she looked at him like he was crazy, said she would call him back and he never heard from her again. He was hurt, mad, etc. He told MB Cahill at that time that the campaign was "all over the place." He had already had one strategy session with the campaign trying to get them to focus on a message.

This info is from a Boston Globe article about the Kerry campaign.

[Andromeda]

46. That's interesting...

and it could explain a lot of things. I didn't know Begala had been given the cold shoulder from Cahill but why did her wishes prevail over Kerry's request?

I don't know much about Cahill or if she's any good or not but I'm personally not that impressed with her. I do know that Begala helped get Bill Clinton elected and he's very good at what he does.

Campaign managers don't like anybody getting in their way and I think turf battles got in the way of a successful campaign.

Kerry was just listening to his handlers but in retrospect it looks like he shouldn't have.

[LSparkle]

22. Shut up -- you look like a fetus!

[Justitia]

26. HAHAHAHA - or a Beluga whale, minus the cute factor -eom

[ibegurpard]

23. And these are our "spokespeople"

No wonder we suck ass.

[against all enemies]

28. Hey Begala, stop treating Novak like he was a good American.

He sold out his country, so fuck both of them. Begala stand up and call Novak a traitor, you whore.

[RubyDuby in GA]

29. Rubyduby to Begala

blow me - you pathetic excuse for a Democrat.

[glitch]

31. To Begala: we're already over YOU. and your show, and your cable network.

Bye.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. WOW people still watch this stuff?

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ducks In A Row]

33. Us to him: we aren't watching so no one gives a shit what you say.

[Snivi Yllom]

35. Why are you watching Crossfire?

Put that dying dog out of its misery and put it down

[Devil Dog Dem]

36. Not sure I'd phrase it that way, but the thrust is correct.

I'd say: channel your anger toward winning. Beating back Bush's RW agenda and winning some seat in 2006, and winning back the WH in 2008.

[leesa]

37. No surprise here. Begala has never fought for Dems

He's is just a fake "liberal" for the amusement and validation of the GOP. He's like lieberman...never oppose the GOP, always say, "move on" no matter how large the GOP crime.

[dennis4868]

38. You get over Paul!

Youe section of the dem party lost it for us....fuck you! You are yesterday's news....bye bye Begala....

[ohioan]

39. How many DUers who were demanding that Kerry hire Begala and Carville

as his campaign managers last summer will now pile on and call Begala everything but a child of God?

[glitch]

42. Plenty of diversity on DU. That is not a bad thing. Now you're hearing

from some of the others.

[The Flaming Red Head]

48. They fucking won, now they need some Viagra to believe it

their penises shrunk with the vote tallies on election night and they can't get over it.

Two more cases of electile disfucksioning

[IndianaGreen]

52. Begala dissed Cynthia McKinney two years ago

so he has been dead meat to us progressives ever since.

[Garbo 2004]

43. "We the people" to pro political party hacks: you're not the boss of us.nt

[The Flaming Red Head]

44. It's about disenfranchisement and voter fraud stupid

we aren't getting over anything (especially this rigged election) and he isn't going to get over on US.

He needs to get over his cushy CNN job come on back down to earth with the rest of us mortals.

[ArtVandaley]

45. Me to Paul: Thanks a lot for propelling Zell Miller to the Senate

Very principled consultant. Will work for anyone and believe anything that will win.

[Forkboy]

49. That sounds like something the worm would say

gads,what a putz.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

54. Dems to Begala....get out of our party because you are no longer worthy.

[JPace]

56. Seems to me a number of prominent Dem leaders

are poo pooing the recount as usless.....I wonder if it could be
a strategy to keep Karl Rove from getting too nervous too soon.

[Donna Zen]

59. The message gatekeeper

Begala has said many things that caused me to turn him off. The only advantage to watching him at all is getting the latest on the inside-the-beltway DLC/DNC buzz. Obviously, the message is moveon...nothing to see here.

The Dems operate as a series of "cliques" and yes, Begala is within the Hillary Clinton sphere. That is not bad by definition, but it does mean that the Dems will and do "eat" other Dems. Contrasted with repubs. who are centralized, all things eminate from the bush-cartel. Even before the absolute control of this dynastic evil, the center was held by money, spies, weapons and energy. Want money? Play ball or they will starve you out.

Begala eats Dems and he thinks he is correct to do so because the echo chamber told him to.

*ucker frames all questions with the worst Dem bashing, and Begala never, ever refutes the charges. In fact, Begala often laughs or supports the ridicule. When he is on with Novak, the seat may as well be empty.

I write nothing here that I have not written to Begala although with a more persuasive tone. I asked nicely for some changes, but I'm not waiting.

More and more as each day passes, I'm convinced that the Dems simply don't care about the base. So what does that make us?