To all the Seniors who voted for Bush

[Sandpiper]

Social Security benefits getting cut so that we can dump it into the stock market?

Can't afford to buy your medicine and buy food?

Too bad grandma! Enjoy your Alpo.

[RummyTheDummy]

1. I agree

Let them eat cake.

[savistocate]

6. Srs..and all not wealthiest

whose moms dads about to turn 65 or first wanting to--needing to quit working. If the thug thieves manage to get their greedy hands on it, bankrupt SS as they are plotting, you would be making up for it.

Do all these con-christians have big pensions ?

[fortyfeetunder]

24. How about some cat food

Let them eat Friskies Dry cat food, after they can't afford to have dentures...

[Cleita]

2. I guess I'm one of those seniors who are going to have to eat

Alpo, and I didn't vote for Bush. Actually, in my corner of Repuke hell it was us seniors who canvassed and registered new voters and manned the phone banks for Kerry. So please don't wish that on all of us. I personally was ordered off of freepers property while canvassing and slipped down a steep hill getting all scabby trying to climb steep road to reach voters and I have asthma. Honestly some of us really tried.

[Sandpiper]

3. I know you did

Both of my grandmas voted for Kerry.

That's why I reserved my ire for Bush Seniors.

[Gin]

4. just wait until the tax cuts are permamnent...the drug bill kicks in...the

debt ceiling is raised..and social security needs billions to start the privitization....all those bush lovers will be affected just like the rest of us...he will be successful in demolishing all social programs and draining the treasury.

[despairing optimist]

5. To all seniors and people on SS disability

Don't give up hope. Keep the pressure on the Bush administration. Bush promised repeatedly that all those currently collecting benefits would not have those benefits cut, and also he and other SS "reformers" stressed that SS disability would not be touched in any way. So don't get scared out of your wits. Get angry and channel the anger into holding those guys' feet to the fire!

[savistocate]

10. Right about channel the anger

Contacting our Democrats in Congress to hold him off and hold his feet to THE FIRE. Promises of these creatures though.

People receiving SS I n s u r a n c e (& all)have paid into this for
decades, deducted..and they would thieve it. Sickest villainy.

[derbstyron]

13. I'm on Disability (SS) and I'm young

lost FL to Bush
Castor lost
screwed on the admendments.
A Bad day for me indeed. :(

[despairing optimist]

18. Keep your paperwork in order, have doctors on your side

and hang in there. I don't think Bush would try what Reagan did 20 years ago, cutting off people on SSD arbitrarily. It backfired bigtime. More likely they'll trim the COLA and hike the retirement age. SS is more a middle-class entitlement, and I think the fundies collect it too, whether it's SSD or retirement pension.

[JPJones]

7. Here's my take

http://vodp.blogspot.com/2004/11/things-must-get-much-worse-before-they.html

Things must get much worse before they get better

Let's encourage the Republicans to be as extreme as they want to be.

The first step is to push hard for a balanced budget. Scream it from the hilltops. Align with moderate Republicans who agree that W's spending is out of control. Then Norquist the government to balance the budget. Things must get much worse before they get better.

Let's encourage privatizing Social Security. This can't be done without cutting seniors' benefits. Sorry, but they voted for Bush (60 and older, 53%/46% for Bush). You can no longer rob Peter to pay Paul (balanced budgets and all). Therefore, first cut COLAs entirely. Then we'll see how much more we need to cut to offset the private savings accounts. Remember, the young voted for Kerry (18-29 year olds, 54%/44% Kerry). Why should they support the old fogies who voted for Bush? Now, I know that you'll say, "They worked for it, they earned", but it's not like they weren't warned (what do you think 'private savings accounts' means?). A few years eating dog food might make them reconsider 'Moral values' as their top issue. Sorry, but things must get much worse before they get better.

Medicare? You get a set amount of cash. Once you exhaust that, f***ing die already.

Welfare (AFDC)? Medicaid? On the chopping block. Transfer a small amount to faith-based programs. This will hurt our core Democratic voters a lot, but again, 36% of those making under $15,000 a year voted for Bush.

Overtime pay? Unions? You should be grateful to have a job (38% of union members voted for Bush).

Bankruptcy? Not on your life. Unlike the federal government, you have to pay your debts.

Dept. of Education? Eliminate it. Education is a local issue.

NASA? Gone. NASA doesn't in any way bring us closer to Jesus Christ.

Etc.

Let the people see what small government looks like. Things must get much worse before they get better.

[mediaman007]

8. This is what needs to be done. Let them have their way. It really

won't affect me. I've worked for 36 years and will have an outstanding retirement as will my wife. I'll be driving through some of the Red states on my way south to play golf. Some of the Reds will be cleaning my clubs. Maybe I'll slip him a buck.

[SangamonTaylor]

9. my parents didn't like me telling them this...

i don't think they realized the implications of Bush planning to allow young people (like me) to put money into private accounts (and out of SS).

I don't think they really liked hearing that.

My Dads small business failed recently. He had to let his entire staff of around 15 engineers go. It's in shambles, now and he is the only engineer left. He had to spend his entire 401k, mostly on my sick grandparents (who thought 'health insurance was only for poor people who don't have cash'). They've been threatened with forclosure on their house (35 year old house...on a second mortgage). Yet, somehow, they thought Bush did a pretty good job, and decided to vote for him last week (early voting here in TX). My brother has been laid off....twice, since Bush has been in office.

[savistocate]

11. I'm just in disbelief (figuratively)

Sang---

[sendero]

12. It's these folks...

.... I can muster no sympathy for. Do they ever try to understand what is going on here? Do they just listen to Fox and CNN and buy the whole line of shit?

Freedom isnt' free. While wingnuts like to say that in reference to the taking up of arms, it also refers to the fact that if you don't expend the time and energy to find out what the fuck is going on, then your freedom will be lost.

Too fucking bad.

[SangamonTaylor]

17. try telling that to an Okie from Muskogee

my father, God bless him, could never vote for a Democrat. I try, really, I do. I just don't get it.

I mean, his sister, my Aunt (who recently became born again after a divorce) talks about how great it is that she knows Tom Coburn (evidently, he too is an Okie from Muskogee).

My Dad actually thought it was funny when I told him that Coburn is a nutjob...he admitted with me that Coburn's lesbian comments were completely classless...I must say, his opinion of gay and lesbian people has changed greatly (and my mom too) since a gay couple moved into a house across the street...they were the only people who brought my mother get well food when she was really sick.

[calimary]

15. And wait til they want all that retirement money to get gambled in

the stock market - like maybe by the Enron people or some such soundrels? Hey, THAT'S the ticket.

[sendero]

14. Them, along with the 18-24s, can....

... pack sand. They can't be bothered to learn the facts or in the case of the 18-24s even show up at the polls - they will get what they deserve.

Too bad so many others have to suffer for their negligence.

[calimary]

16. I'm waiting for all the wide-eyed young girls and young matrons

and young working women who suddenly realize that they're knocked up and can't get an abortion anymore. I can't tell you how many women I know who are still in total denial about this. "Oh, it's NOT gonna happen," they sneer, again and again. "It's NOT gonna happen. NOT gonna happen." Just wait and see.

[tarheel_voter]

22. If it happens fine... what the hell. We told you so.

This abortion issue is costing us millions of votes anyway. Girls can go to any blue state they want to get the procedure done. Fuck em!

[sub.theory]

21. Er.......wtf?

The 18-24 year olds were the ONLY age group to go for Kerry. What the fuck does it matter if every last middle aged American votes when they are heavily favoring the fucking Chimp? Face it, it wasn't the under 30 crowd that let us down - it was the 30+.

See here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1312520

[kerry-is-my-prez]

19. They're talking about it right now on the news in SW Florida.

Heaven forbid they should have talked about it before the election.

[tarheel_voter]

20. Old folks who vote republican, there is a NEW deal for you !!!!!

I didn't sign up for transfer payments to you seniors and huge Republican deficits ! Call me generation X.

You vote for Bush... then you want me to pay for your drugs, medical care, pay your income, and pay the interest on the debts we incur for your costs and Republican corporate giveaways.

Then you want to raise my retirement age, to make up the shortfall in revenue...

When do i get to retire? This is one dem who doesn't need this republican shit. Generation X dems will not stand for it. Sure flame me.

[Obviousman]

23. Grandma Millie

That's all that needs to be said

[PsN2Wind]

25. Sure a lot of talking

shit here about seniors. Although I resent the title I am old enough to be on Social Security. I started paying in when I was 16 yo and after two hitches in the military and working at other things for 40 years, yeah I'm drawing out of it. I voted for Kerry and plugged him to everyone in the retirement community I lived in. I live in the blue part of AZ. But when I hear the kind of tripe you pricks are running off at the mouth about, I think maybe me, and people like me are on the wrong side.
How about if us "seniors' start coming out against Headstart, the WIC program, Pell grants, subsidized student loans and the many other programs that the GenerationX have sucked off of for the first 25 years of life. Then we neither one owe the other anything.
If you younger people, that probably have the most to lose from the results of this election, had gotten off your asses and turned out serious numbers this conversation would not be necessary.

[Sandpiper]

26. Kerry won a majority of the youth vote

Bush won a majority of the senior vote.

It wasn't the youth vote that let us down.

[PsN2Wind]

28. Not the majority of youth

the majority that bothered to get out and vote. Which really wasn't
the point I was trying to make. However if you want to call your grandmother and tell her to eat dog food because of how the vote went that's your call.

[MaraJade]

27. Hope you love your RX benefits. . .

You'll have to leave your own doc and join an HMO. Then you'll have to fork over $3700 in out of pocket costs before Medicare pays anything for meds.

Enjoy your Alpo dinners. . .

[tedzbear]

29. Barbara Bush loves you.

Her beautiful mind is even more beautiful now that her chimp son has actually been elected.