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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:40 AM
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Need some support
Didn't sleep at all, am crying, shaky, and almost throwing up. I think I just need some moral support... hope somebody has some to give.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:40 AM
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1. Do you have someone near you?
Someone you can get to?
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:43 AM
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4. have my daughter and sister in law coming over soon
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:42 AM
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2. You're not alone...
There are loads of us feeling a bit sick this morning. However, progressives don't give up. Real democrats don't give up. Human beings don't give up easily. We'll keep fighting for the truth.

Take a deep breath and think about everyone here working together for so long. We'll continue to do it.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:42 AM
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3. C'mon ... relax
Never get too wrapped up in the things that are beyond your control. It makes you too vulnerable.

:hug: Have some tea, chill out, and figure out how to move forward.
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:51 AM
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7. gonna do that... thanks.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:45 AM
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5. We all have to hang in there. We all have each other, especially here.
Feeling pretty shaky this morning, I must admit.

Ahh, DU. It's the solace, stupid. Serving yet another purpose. Shelter in an apparently perfect storm.
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 AM
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17. I'm glad we all have each other here. I don't know how I would
have gotten through this election season without the warmth, wit, and friendship of those of you here.

I'm now preparing myself for a lot of sanctimonious right wing chest thumping and the mere thought of it makes me ill.

I've been awake for two straight days now. I'm drain and actually grieving. We have to rebuild our party to save this country.
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:00 AM
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18. I'm glad we all have each other here. I don't know how I would
have gotten through this election season without the warmth, wit, and friendship of those of you here.

I'm now preparing myself for a lot of sanctimonious right wing chest thumping and the mere thought of it makes me ill.

I've been awake for two straight days now. I'm drain and actually grieving. We have to rebuild our party to save this country.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:47 AM
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6. It's alright, Kristin. Our leadership is taking care of this...
Try to relax...just put in a good movie or something, try to be patient.

Everything's going to be fine.
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dirtyduck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:52 AM
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9. thanks all...
its tough for anyone else to understand how I am feeling right now...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:59 AM
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11. No, I hear ya...
Really, we're all feeling it. I've been avoiding crying all morning. And I'm a guy.
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Ms.Victory Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:51 AM
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8. I know how your feeling. We all
do. I feel like someone who is shellshocked. Try and relax,calm down and be with your family. Try to find something else to focus on.
Your not alone.
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Bungalowgal Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:58 AM
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10. I know exactly how you feel
I am absolutely devastated, having a hard time bucking up. Woke up every couple of hours last night and am having a serious cry right now. Can't even make coffee yet, had to check in on the net with my fellow travelers. I have that same feeling as a bad breakup, my heart is broken.
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Robert of Locksley Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:01 AM
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12. Don't even think of giving up
Sorry for posting this more than once...

After reading all the despair on this board, I'm a bit shocked at the defeatism. Mourn, of course. The media steered all of us wrong in thinking Kerry was going to win.

But if you know world history, what happened last night is nothing new. It's always been a case of one step forward, two steps back.
Just because the country currently swings right, doesn't mean it will always be so. If the right-wing fundies had given up so easily in the 90s with Clinton's two terms, they wouldn't be where they are right now. But they had everything they needed to win - an unyielding moral imperative, a strong will to refuse defeat and the courage to go against the popular grain.

Those who believe in equality, democracy, tolerance and economic justice MUST have the same strength as the religious right, certain in the face of an overwhelming historical majority that they are right. Running away is easy, but it doesn't solve anything. So you live in a country where the dominant tendency is an affront to your belief system - you are in good company, my friends.

From Socrates to Galileo, history has always been a record of truth speaking against a corrupt authority backed by a fearful, narrow-minded populace. Eventually, truth will win out. Take a larger perspective and read history. Throughout any era, the fight for decency has always been a struggle and it's rare that good wins out.

And I don't want to hear any of that moral relativity bullshit. Pain is an absolute - if I cut your arm, you bleed. When people starve, they starve. If a policy is more harmful than helpful, it's wrong, no matter how many religious texts or scholarly books say otherwise. It's as simple as that. To stand up for what you believe is right against opposition is the measure of a hero - it's not easy - and that's why heroes are rare.

So grow a backbone and read Gibbon and plan your next battle. The war's only just begun.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:53 AM
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13. Get real....the rightward swing began with Clinton....
...sorry he invented triangulation...a la let's beat the republicans at their own game. The country followed suit....and said let's do away with government. Don't you remember "The end of big government"? Please. I am blaming the democrats who are willing to concede everything for a quick win.... now they have the results. I'm sick to my stomach this morning...but down deep, also not surprised.

Look at the states that Kerry won...the margins shrank except in the northeast.

The country isn't really divided...the democratic strongholds are just isolated. More of every group voted for the right wing...how sad.

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Robert of Locksley Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:54 AM
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14. I am real...
and it's a philosophical difference, not an economic one. The swing towards the right began when the left wing abandoned Enlightenment principles for Postmodernism. The enormous vacuum left room for Absolutism to come poking its head through the door again. What the right wing says (a supposed endorsement of Enlightenment values) and what they do (rollback to a more authoritarian time) are two different things.

Don't scoff at the introduction of philosophy - the neocons certainly don't - students of Leo Strauss, they consider the Enlightenment to be one of the worst things to happen in history and are trying to go back to that good old combination of ecclesiastical morality and absolutist rule. Something that the U.S. was founded to combat.

But people in this country still share the values of the Enlightenment - what's happened is that the left have abandoned them for postmodernist chic and cultural studies - so the average American turns to the church and the Republican party in despair for something tangible to believe in. The reaction against the "liberal elite" is really a reaction against a philosophy that can't sustain a populace in a difficult time of historical transition. People need something to believe in and the left just isn't giving it to them.

Now that America's spread Enlightenment values across the world, it's actually battling the same old battles of the 1700s within. Kinda ironic, don't you think? But until the left in this country wakes up and stops obsessing on postmodern bullshit by a few European theorists and the moral negativism of despair, absolutism fills the empty space.
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:55 AM
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15. been up all night...just angry and bitter..
because John Kerry won this election..the people are being robbed and this is not america anymore
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sir_arms_50 Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:58 AM
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16. Do you have any other support groups?
Maybe any other internet message boards to go to also?

I am feeling the same way this morning. I called my mom and had a good cry with her this morning. I am just going to stay under my blanket today. You are in my thoughts!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:02 AM
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19. He's still my president
And if, God forbid, the worst happens, then I want him to run again in 2008.

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:02 AM
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20. In the end, you control how you feel.
Never let anyone, not the media, not the Repugs, not even the Democrats control your mind and heart. So don't let yourself get down. Every good thing that was true about you yesterday is still true about you today. The rest of the world may be a hell, or may become a hell, but you remain worthy. Shine like a light in the darkness, a light that cannot be extinguished.

You are a proud Democrat.
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