Did I DREAM this, or hear OBL tape is from Sept?

[Eurobabe]

I could swear while switiching channels yesterday, I heard someone say that this tape was "commemorating the anniversary of 9/11" and it should have come out 6 wks. ago? It was reported that the tape was dropped off in Pakistan on Friday, but I wonder if they had it alot earlier, and the admin held this tape until now?

It may have been Octavia Nassr from CNN? Did anyone else hear this? Or am I dreaming?

[izzie]

1. Since that TV station is so hated by the Bush people I

would think they would have very little say with this station. I must say I think OBL is a master. He does not have to do a thing but tape a less than $100 tape of 15 min. or so to make 280 million people shake in their boots.

[PCIntern]

2. You're dreaming...

lay there quietly and think: I am safer now than on September 10 2001, my air is cleaner, my water purer, my job more secure, my children better educated, my life enhanced by the melodious rhythms of the Bush-Cheney Administration....

Ahhhh.

Now just pull the R Lever...that's it, ...


WAKE UP FROM YOUR FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!

The tape was probably made the day before yesterday...


I can't sleep either and I feel like I'm going onstage at Woodstock - lump in the throat and nauseated...

[shraby]

3. I heard that too on t.v.

It was either cnn or msnbc and I don't remember who said it.

[izzie]

4. Well I just do not think Bush could have kept it off air.

Here but not over seas.

[Eurobabe]

5. I don't think so...

what struck me was when Octavia Nasr was interpreting, and they asked her about the references to 9/11:

I just found the transcript from CNN Inside Politics from yesterday (Octavia speaking to Judy)

WOODRUFF: Some breaking news here on CNN. We showed you a short time ago new video of a man who appears to be Osama bin Laden. This tape has been shown on Al Jazeera. CNN has been listening to it, looking at it. Our senior editor for Arab affairs, Octavia Nasr, joins me now from Atlanta.

Octavia, you got a chance to hear some of it. Tell us what you make of it.

OCTAVIA NASR, CNN SR. EDITOR FOR ARAB AFFAIRS: Indeed, Judy, I did hear what Al Jazeera aired. Of course, they said the tape is 18 minutes long. But we heard only a few minutes in sound bites from that tape. I also did the translation for our network. So if we roll some of the sound you're going to hear my voice again.

But basically this is a speech that can be titled -- it's a message to the American people, first of all, this is the second time that Osama bin Laden sends a message directly to the American people. He says, through this message I want to explain to you why the 9/11 attacks took place and the repercussions from those attacks.

And basically a threat right there that if the policies of the United States do not change, that Americans should expect to see more. As a matter of fact, Judy, let's listen to some of the sound and maybe comment on that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

OSAMA BIN LADEN (through translator): Your security is not in the hand of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your hands and every state that doesn't mess with our security, this way you secure your own security.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NASR: And Judy, you heard the man there -- that was my voice translating the speech simultaneously. Basically he is telling the American people he does understand that this country is going through an election year. And he's telling them that your security basically is not in the hands of Bush or Kerry or al Qaeda. The security is in your hands.

And he ends his speech saying that if a nation doesn't attack us, we won't attack them. And this has been the spirit of this whole speech, basically explaining -- trying to explain himself, saying that the reason -- he also said, I want to discuss with you when the idea of hitting the towers in the United States -- when it happened, when the idea came to my mind.

He describes the events of the Israeli invasion in Lebanon in 1982. And he said this is when the idea occurred to me that the U.S. has to pay because he says -- in his words he says the U.S. helped Israel in that invasion and he figured that the U.S. must pay. And this is when he started plotting for the attacks.

So he does say that -- and he swears to God -- he says, I swear to God that the idea was not to bring down the towers of the World Trade Center. He says, we had discussed that the operation shouldn't take more than 20 minutes in order to achieve it before the Bush administration even realizes what we had done.

But he said it was Mr. Bush who was sitting there listening to a child's story. He says he preferred to listen to a little girl telling a story about a goat rather than worry about 50,000 citizens of his who were facing some of the most daunting times of their short life.

Very chilling tape, Judy, of course, it has many, many significances here. This is the first time in over two years that we see and hear Osama bin Laden. Obviously he's talking about current issues. He talks about more than four years have passed after the attacks of 9/11 which puts this tape -- the taping of this tape around or after 9/11 of this year.

He talks about the elections. He talks about perhaps what the American people are going through when it comes to which one of the candidates is going to be able to bring them more security. And he says it very clearly that don't count on one or the other or al Qaeda to bring you security. Security is in your own hands he tells the American people -- Judy.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/29/ip.01.html

[tomfodw]

10. "More than four years"?

"He talks about more than four years have passed after the attacks of 9/11 which puts this tape -- the taping of this tape around or after 9/11 of this year."

Um...Sept. 11, 2001, was only 3 years ago.

[radfringe]

11. he also talked about bush* sitting on his butt

reading My Pet Goat -- this inaction gave terra-ists a bit more time

[Zen Democrat]

6. I heard it, too, that tape was a 9/ll message from Bin Laden.

[liveoaktx]

7. On MSNBC (I think Countdown) commentator said it was probably a 911

tape, meant to come out on the anniversary of 911.

[supernova]

8. As late as last week

the people at NBC Today this morning said the tape could have been made at least as late as laat week.

And no, I don't think Bush held it back. He has no control over Al-Jazeera.

[npincus]

9. why would it matter? I believe an "October Surprise" was Bin Laden's

intention and he timed the release as such. Of course that twisted f*ck would want to release it at a time of maximum impact.