911 widow Mariani ..."I'm 100 percent sure that they knew,"

[cthrumatrix]

N.H. Widow Waiting for Answers from Sept. 11 Attacks
Associated Press
Wednesday, Dec 24, 2003


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"I'm 100 percent sure that they knew," she said. "I'm challenging the courts, the government, United Airlines and the courts in Manhattan."

Information has been withheld from the families, said Mariani, such as the list of passengers on the flights.

"I don't see any foreigners names on there," she said, referring to the Arab hijackers. "They know the list of all the people getting on the plane; give it to us."

Mariani said she also wants to know who entered the planes that crashed.

"I want to see their surveillance tapes and the black boxes; you can't destroy them," she said. "Where are they? Why are they telling control-tower employees to shut their mouths?"

Mariani said it was difficult to get a lawyer to take her case.

"Nobody dared take this case because it's against the government -- nobody. I talked to a lot of them. Big shots -- I mean, big-time attorneys didn't want this case," she said.

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http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2003-12-24-answers.php



It's funny how lawyers would run from the opportunity to get "answers"...or lawsuits vs airlines.

[HootieMcBoob]

1. We won't see this in the mainstream media anytime soon either

I'm a firm LIHOP believer. There's a lot out there that if it were ever to come to light would send this country reeling. She's absolutely right.

[GR]

2. Thanks for The Link...Very Important...Printed Hard Copy...

What people are missing when they criticize Dean for bringing up "the most interesting theory..." stuff in the Diane Reem interview is the context of that answer. She asked him why the Bush administration was stonewalling the 911 Commission. If they have nothing to hide, why then are they stonewalling, I'd say.

As for "were they warned." Being warned and LIH is not at all inconsistent with not "wanting the attack to happen." To say that Bush was warned and did nothing, says only that he is incompetent, which of course he is, it doesn't mean he "wanted it to happen" as Dean's critics imply.

If you'll remember, he was alone on August 6th 2001 when he received that CIA Briefing, with no Condi, no Colin and no Carl to tell him what to do. And he was on vacation and didn't want to spoil it with working on a problem, so he probably just ignored the briefing. What a slug!

[NewJeffCT]

9. True

Don't the conservatives always say, if you're innocent you have nothing to worry about?

[dansolo]

26. So at best, he is incompetant

At worst he is a traitor.

[SpiralHawk]

3. Testify, sister, testify

Tell it like it is. You've got heart and guts as you stand against the world.

If this were a Greek tragedy, now would be the moment when the insane maJesty of HYSTERIA would be invoked to call screaming, mad, frothing, eye-bugging attention to:

THE ENORMOUS TURD IN THE MIDDLE OF AMERICA'S LIVING ROOM

To wit: our government appears to be culpable in the 9/11 tragedy, and is certainly going out of its way to cover up the truth of what happened.

Hysteria may be the only thing that will get the media to notice. Don't be surprised if someone soon goes "there."

America -- take a sniff. That is A Major Log of Lying Shit in the middle of your life. It needs to be CLEANED OUT but good.

[King_Crimson]

5. The only laxative to clean...

this shit out of our systems is to expose the REAL Fascist pigs...Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et. al.. I'm almost convinced that Numbnuts may have been kept out of the loop as to having exact knowledge of what was coming down on 9/11. Even the PNAC'ers would admit, I'm sure, that they didn't want to run the risk of having that idiot let something slip out of his vulgar mouth that would spoil their plans! Personally, I think Rove should be the one attacked...after all he's the one that does the thinking for Numbnuts!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

4. Kick for a very courageous woman!

If our Dem party leaders had half the guts that she does, we wouldn't be having all these problems!

[cthrumatrix]

6. Her interview with Alex Jones...take a listen

http://www.prisonplanet.com/120403mariani.html

[Must_B_Free]

13. Alex Jones? too bad - negative association

he has even less credibility then Al Martin...

[cthrumatrix]

15. the aj interview is "in addition" to the above press article

I just found the interview...it's with her and her lawyer...it's pretty good

I'm not an AJ follower

[cthrumatrix]

19. mariani's lawyer claims Jeb Bush and his govt plane siezed and flew

papers from the flight schools (florida) out of the country...right after 911...what the heck is that about?

[Minstrel Boy]

24. I think it's from Daniel Hopsicker

He's probably uncovered the most pertaining to the hijackers' Florida connections.

"According to local law enforcement who loaded the records from Huffman Aviation and Florida Flight Training Center aboard a C130 at Sarasota International Airport the day after September 11th, when it flew out Jeb Bush was aboard."
http://www.madcowprod.com/index36.html

[Minstrel Boy]

7. great photo gallery

Does my heart good to see.

[graphixtech]

27. Thank you very much,

Minstrel Boy.

Good for my spirit to hear that ;)

[MoonRiver]

8. I'm listening now.

This woman is very, very savvy.

[YNGW]

10. Warning

Be aware that COINTELPRO agents have used covert methods in the past to discredit people or groups they regard as dangerous. There are those who have every reason to believe COINTELPRO agents acting as agent provecurs are attempting to use these methods here, knowing that their postings will be viewed by the general public as "crack-pot conspiracy theories", and these things will be used in order to discredit the Democratic Party. Please be aware they have used these methods in the past with great success. Also, be aware that they will attack and attempt to discredit any and all who they fear are exposing these methods.

[HootieMcBoob]

11. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at

are you suggesting that we pooh pooh all the facts leading up to 9/11 and just allow the Bush adminstration to continue stonewalling without calling them on it?

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[Must_B_Free]

16. I think he may be onto something

as soon as I heard the name Alex Jones, I thought she just crossed the line into the non-credible.

Look at Al Martin... He drips juicy info with no substantiating evidence. remember the "Gauleiter of Mecklenburg" lie he had to eat?

[cthrumatrix]

17. this article is not from alex jones....no need for mistruths...read

the link with an interview is....i think you are confused

[HootieMcBoob]

18. I don't know who alex jones or al martin are

but if being afraid of being labeled a conspiracy theorist means allowing these people to get away with stonewalling and not turning over information then that is just fucking bullshit.

If it hadn't been for the 9/11 widows this 9/11 investigation wouldn't have gotten off the ground at all. And if they hadn't been there asking real questions and pushing the chickenshit politicians at every turn, they wouldn't have gotten even as far as they have today. COINTELPRO my ass!

[YNGW]

21. COINTELPRO my ass!

That's what Fred Hampton and a whole host of others said. May they RIP.

[cthrumatrix]

23. the main message here is that they are taking these thugs to court

and are exposing these criminals.

Since the media won't touch it. And all we can do is complain about the media conspiracy....it's nice to see progress and a search for truth.

[TNOE]

12. Thank the Heavens for

this courageous woman! May she be the David that slays Golieth!!! In modern day terms of course.

[tom_paine]

20. Lawyers would run because the Imperial Family fights hard and dirty

Even murderously, if they can get away with it.

This is not shocking.

[TNOE]

22. This is cool - 9/11 Fax

http://www.lfchosting.com/sportsfem/peace/911_FAX.html

[Fleshdancer]

25. I can't begin to imagine what she's going through

I'm extremely mad about the secrecy surrounding 9/11 and I didn't lose the love of my life to the horrific events that day. My heart goes out to her and everyone else who lost a family member that day.

Is there anything we can do to help make her voice louder so that more people can hear what's going on?

[graphixtech]

28. 9/11 Event in KC on Feb 22 (photo) !

9/11 widow Ellen Mariani (shown left with a friend), has filed a lawsuit against Bush and other White House officials.

"Our government had knowledge of this and took no steps to prevent it," Berg said. Mariani said no amount of money from the federal government would persuade her to back off from her legal fight. "I would eat dirt before Feinberg got me into the fund,"

Mariani said. "I am a person who wants to know what happened," said the 65-year-old grandmother, who is living off monthly Social Security checks. "Money is great, but not when it comes to a loved one being murdered."(http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7467070.htm)

9-11 Visibility Project-Kansas City will be hosting Ellen Mariani and her lawyer in Kansas City on February 22nd. Come and listen to their first hand experiences and hear the Truth about what the complicit corporate media does not want you to hear.


(November 29th, Kansas City Visibility action)
http://911Visibility.org/