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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 02:04 PM
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Bloviate all you want, Octafish
Let me know when I reach your level of futility.
I'm trying but you have a 47 year head start.
tick...tick...tick..
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:31 PM
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1. Saddest thing isn't what you don't know or say, it's that you don't want others to learn, zappaman.
So, to help those interested in learning:

Bedrock Evidence in the Kennedy Assassination

EXCERPT...

Why do everyone else in the limousine shift forward at Z308? We can see that the driver, William Greer, turned around and looked into the back seat just before this happened. Did he tap the brake pedal with his foot when he turned? We cannot know for certain but such a tap would explain fully what we see in the film. And why does the President jerk backward and to the left just after Z313? Because his head took a bullet fired from the right front.



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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:42 PM
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2. JFK jerks...
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 04:43 PM by SDuderstadt
forward first, dude. Why do you keep leaving that out? If he was shot from the front, unless you're claiming he was shot through the windshield, why weren't there bullet fragments in the left hemisphere of his brain?

Oh, wait...I forgot...all the physical evidence was "faked". Can we expect indictments anytime soon? Why is it taking you so long to blow the lid off this thing?

P.S. How is Zappaman preventing anyone from learning about the assassination, dude?
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:27 PM
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3. Bloviate all you want, Octafish
Tell me, do you think the driver fired the shot?
Many do.
Do you think a front shot came from the sewer?
Many do.
Many people believe many nutty things.
Have you come up with the "evidence" to prove your theory?
By the way, what is your theory?
How many were involved?
Did you know the word "bloviate" before my posts?
Hmmm...I wonder how many of these questions you will answer...
:rofl:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:35 AM
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4. Did you even hear of David Atlee Phillips before this thread, zappaman?
Going from what you've written, I doubt it. So, instead of putting me down to what "many do," try emptying your mind of what you think is so and let in something new: facts. In the case of Lee Harvey Oswald, you should know about his trip to Mexico City, where someone went to a lot of trouble to impersonate him at the Cuban and Soviet embassies.



Oswald, the CIA and Mexico City

By John Newman, Ph.D.
Copyright ©1999 by John Newman.

EXCERPT...

II. Puzzles and Pieces

SNIP...

The weirdest, most gangly piece is the 28 September phone transcript. In addition to the Oswald impersonator, there are two more speakers on this one. The phone call is between the Cuban Consulate and the Soviet Embassy at a time when no one was in the Cuban Consulate and the Soviets were in the middle of preparing a report to KGB HQ on Oswald’s activities. The FBI confirmed that the Oswald character was played by someone else. Another speaker in this transcript, the secretary in the Cuban Consulate, Silvia Duran, had to have been impersonated if, as she and her colleagues have repeatedly claimed and testified, the Cuban consulate was closed at the time of the telephone call.

This only leaves one other person, the man allegedly in the Soviet Embassy. If he is truly in the Soviet Embassy, then one could advance the argument that this was some sort of CIA penetration operation. If the Soviet man, too, was impersonated, then there was no legitimate intelligence operation even though it was probably designed to look like one. We should bear in mind that the CIA has never publicly claimed these phone calls were part of any intelligence operation and the Russians have no recollection of such a call. In fact, at the very time this phone call was supposed to have been made to the Soviet Embassy, the three staff members with whom Oswald had visited for an hour were still in the building and in the process of assembling all of the details for a cable to KGB Central in Moscow. It is frustrating that, in 1999, when Boris Yeltsin handed over KGB files on Oswald to President Clinton, they did not include the Soviet Embassy cables that were sent at the time of this bogus 3-person telephone call. Those contemporaneous cables could provide corroboration for the later Soviet (Nechiporenko-Kostikov) account.

The second puzzle piece is the 1 October telephone transcript, wherein the Oswald impersonator mentions a meeting with Valery Kostikov—a man known to the CIA as the chief of KGB assassination operations for the entire Western hemisphere. In fact, according to CIA cables and Kostikov himself, the real Oswald did meet Kostikov in Mexico. What, then, was the purpose of this impersonation? When we hold this second piece side-by-side with the first piece, we are drawn to the possibility of a plot to murder the president, an integral part of which was planting—in CIA channels—evidence of an international communist conspiracy.

The third piece is a missing transcript. We know there was a 30 September tape because of the recollection of the CIA translator who transcribed it. Her name is Mrs. Tarasoff and she remembers not only transcribing it but also the fact that the Oswald voice was the same as the 28 September voice—in other words the same Oswald impostor. This piece is all the more unique because Mrs. Tarasoff remembers the Oswald character asked the Soviets for money to help him defect, once again, to the Soviet Union.

Finally, this piece has another side to it as well: it concerns what a CIA officer at the Mexico City station had to say about it. His name was David Atlee Phillips and, in sworn testimony to the HSCA, he backed up Mrs. Tarasoff’s claim about the tape and the request for money to assist in another defection to the Soviet Union. But the Phillips story has another twist. The day before his sworn testimony, Phillips told a different, more provocative version to Ron Kessler of the Washington Post. He told Kessler that on this tape Oswald asked for money in exchange for information. Why was this crucial transcript destroyed? What motivated Phillips to tell two different stories about this piece in less than 24 hours?

CONTINUED...

http://www.ctka.net/pr999-osciamex.html



Ever hear of Valery Kostikov before this thread, zappaman? Either way, I can understand why it's not worth asking if you ever wonder why all that didn't make it to the Warren Commission report, let alone into The New York Times?
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:12 PM
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5. Bloviate all you want, Octafish
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 12:16 PM by zappaman
Blah blah blah
It's a fact LHO went to Mexico City, so why would someone(who looked nothing like him, BTW) be impersonating him at the same time?
Keep digging, Blofish...you're getting closer to unraveling this mystery inside an enigma!
:rofl:
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:47 PM
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7. "Is your job to supply plausible deniability to traitors"
Edited on Sun Nov-21-10 01:48 PM by SDuderstadt
Rejecting your goofy bullshit is not supplying anything except, perhaps, a trigger for another one of your smears, dude. We're one day short of the 47th anniversary of JFK's assassination. Shouldn't you be applying your efforts to solving the murder, rather than smearing DU members?

Don't worry, dude. Your 47 year record of failure and futility is safe, although you do run the risk of being overtaken by other conspiracists.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 02:17 PM
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8. Bloviate all you want, Octafish
wow.
you countered my facts with bullshit!
congrats on your years of futility my good friend!
oh, and thanks for the smear.
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