Sorry for such a basic question, but:

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When a building has a fire, isn't the first priority to evacuate the building? Then, the firefighters go in and fight the fire? Why did so many firefighters enter the World Trade Center before it was evacuated?

[AZCat]

1. I would guess it was to assist in the evacuation...

along with trying to fight the fires in order to prolong the length of time people had to evacuate.

[mrgerbik]

2. I guess with NIST and their

new observations regarding high rise buildings and fire, thermal expansion and pancaking floors pose a serious problem for firefighters.

We probably shouldn't send them in any longer. Best just let the building neatly collapse in on itself and burn out 'naturally'.

:sarcasm:

[petgoat]

3. As I recall from news reports at the time, it was something of a sore point.

Firefighters trying to lug all their gear up the stairs were making it hard for
the citizens to get down the stairs.

Probably they should have coordinated, establishing up-staircases and down
staircases, but that's 20-20 hindsight.

[AZCat]

4. The location of the staircases might also have been an issue.

My boss and I talked about this, how putting the staircases in the same location (or several "clusters") is common, but if something unusual happens (like an aircraft colliding with the building) there's a risk that several staircases could be rendered useless at the same time.

[truedelphi]

5. One point to consider is that Neil Bush owned the security firm

In charge of the building on Sept 11th.

I think they ahd only been in charge like three or four weeks.

Anyway, people sitting in their offices in the WTC towers were told over the loud speaker system to stay in place until the resuce workers came for them.

One of the things that increased your chances of getting out alive was whether or not you had been in the building way back at the time of the 1993 WTC bombing. People who had experienced that evacuation scenario were very dubious about the idea of sitting around waiting for rescue teams. And they left.

The other thing that helped a person make up their mind about leaving is if they had a clear view of the other building's fire and how large a fire it was. So people who could look across and see that it wasn't a small commuter plane that had hit the building but something much larger, those people took off regardless of how many times the voices on the loud speakers told them to stay seated and wait.

[AZCat]

6. I would consider your point if it were true. It isn't. n/t

[Flatulo]

7. I think you mean Marvin Bush. He was just a board member.

The CEO was one Barry McDaniel.

Bush sat on the board until 2000.

Do you know what board members do? Not very much. They approve stock transactionss, rubber stamp reorgs and feed themselves at the corporate trough.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

[SDuderstadt]

9. This is my concern about the "truth movement"....

thay can't seem to get even basic facts correct and their subsequent supposition triggers all sorts of outlandish claims/theories, etc. This false claim about Marvin (not Neil) Bush could have been easily fact-checked before the poster attempted to pass it off as truth. Why didn't they?

[Flatulo]

11. Sometimes it feels like 'Groundhog Day' around here. nt

[Flatulo]

12. Because it's so much more exciting to 'believe'. nt

spelling edit

[Realityhack]

10. You have been REPEATEDLY corrected on the point regarding Bush.

Your insistence on using factually incorrect information in your posts makes you look stupid.

[truedelphi]

14. Nope not on this fact, I don't think. If true, then Googling my ID and "Neil Bush" would show

The Correction.

And besides, it was rather a "sidebar" comment.

If I misremember that it was Mrs Gr. who was my fifth grade teacher and Mrs Gl who was my sixth, it doesn't change the fact that I attended Saint E. school for eight years while in grammar school.

[hack89]

8. The delay would have been unacceptable

it takes a long time for people to walk down. It took nearly an hour for the firefighters to climb up to the fires. I suspect that they decided they didn't have any time to waste and needed to get to the fires as quickly as possible.

[Bassman66]

13. Thermal expansion.

It's the new rock 'n roll.