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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:34 PM
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OK. Saturday I watched "911 In Plane Sight". I have a question.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 06:35 PM by in_cog_ni_to
The theory in the documentary is that the planes that hit the towers were NOT passenger jets. They could possibly be cargo planes...it was hard to tell. The plane that hit the Pentagon could NOT have been a 757. The hole in the building is waaaaay too small.

OK, my question is....

If these planes were not passenger jets, where are all the people that were suppose to be on those planes and where are the planes themselves? The guy in the video didn't even go there. At the end of the film, my husband and I looked at each other and at the same time said..."What happened to all the people on the planes?"

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:36 PM
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:37 PM
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2. I hope you didn't spend money...
you can't even wrap fish in that foil!

;-)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:44 PM
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6. I did.
:spank:

Honestly, the planes hitting the towers don't look like passenger jets. NO WINDOWS. And they look like a solid color gray, like a cargo plane.

The Pentagon hole? There's no way that was a plane that hit that building. Not possible...IMCPO. No debris from a plane, at all. NONE. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

The grass wasn't burned, furniture in an office, exposed by the hole, wasn't burned...papers weren't even singed. :shrug: Jet fuel would have done a lot more damage. It was a small hole compared to a 757.
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Torgo4 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:59 PM
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7. snopes.com Shot the Pentagon Plane Theory Down!
REmember folks...Airplanes are just big aluminum tubes.
When they strike at high speed, they disintegrate! The only thing left would have been denser items engine and landing gear parts.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:41 PM
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8. Flight 175 was a United Airlines jet.
What color are United Airlines jets painted?

I too regret that you paid money for that DVD.
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Blue Member Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:03 AM
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23. You people amaze me,,,,
You see original video evidence shown to you...and still you act like idiots.....Nikita was right...we will be conquered from within...by idiots.
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impe Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:23 AM
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24. Give us your best shot...


and it was disappointing.


If you're referring to the pentagon tape, I beg to differ. The only thing original about it was that they thought
the gulible masses would fall for it months after the attack.

Go back to watching your "reality" TV and remember their watching you.

hahhahhahohohohoheeheeeheee
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:43 AM
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27. pod people
It's because most people are sheeple. They don't understand how the physcial world works. (they are science poor)

The biggest question that they should be asking is, if there is no problem then why keep these photos from us? And videos for that matter.

http://www.erichufschmid.net/CNNSuppressedHeadlineNews.html
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:55 AM
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28. N.B.
Disclaimer:

Since the behavior of the American government cannot be distinguished from comedy, the above reports could be true. Therefore, to prevent confusion, I want to let you know that this web page is only for amusement, although it is true that Carl Cameron had at least one of this investigations suppressed after it was broadcast, and the FBI really did confiscate security video of both the 9-11 attack and the Oklahoma City Bombing.


http://www.erichufschmid.net/CNNSuppressedHeadlineNews.html

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impe Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:23 AM
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30. Are you


comparing the Oklahoma bombing to the pentagon? Was this why all videos from private establishments
were taken by the FBI. Or are you saying, the FBI routinely confiscates videos from the public? Did they do
this in NY? Why did they allow the French video and many other to be aired. Why is there inconsistency
in policy regarding what the public is allowed to see?
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:32 AM
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34. What?

I'm not claiming anything.

I quoted from the previously supplied link.

I'd guess that your coveted videos have not been shown because they have nothing significant to show. Did you consider the possibily?

It is of course perfectly normal for criminal investigators around the world to seize evidence, just as it is normal for them to keep the evidence until such time that a trial takes place. It once took me about a year and some considerable effort to retrieve a roll of film volunteered to a burglary investigation.

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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:15 PM
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9. No debris at the Pentagon?
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 08:16 PM by MercutioATC
The wheel?

The gear strut?

The numerous little pieces of fuselage all over?

The high-pressure rotor fan?

The oxygen bottle?

The large piece of fuselage right on the friggin' lawn?

...not to mention:

The eyewitnesses who saw a large commercial plane.

The knocked-over lightpoles.

The rescue worker who found a child's hand...

The grass wasn't burned because the majority of the fuel entered the building upon impact.

The furniture and papers that weren't burned weren't exposed to the fire. They were only exposed after the fire had been put out and the walls collapsed.

If you think there's no way a 757 caused that damage, try this site:

http://www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonline03/0203feat.html

It explains how the damage is consistent with a 757 crash very nicely.
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impe Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:41 AM
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13. Don't Forget


the DNA of ALL the passengers.
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:35 PM
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19. It is not correct to suppose
that the DNA of all the passengers was identified.

A third of the identified passengers were identified by other means, e.g. ordinary dental or medical records.

This is important in view of the bogus question: how come the aircraft was vaporized while the DNA survived.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 03:09 PM
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20. Not "vaporized" as in "turned to vapor", just small pieces.
Eyewitnesses reported seeing a "cloud of silver confetti". There were pieces, just small ones.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:09 AM
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31. Don't forget the black boxes
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:13 AM
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32. That is an excellent website...
Oh and I suppose now that the ASCE is some government conspirator??? :eyes: Guess that makes me a government secret agent then since Im gonna join it :)
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:43 AM
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15. Oh Jaeez.
I should just keep a folder of pics online. But why bother?
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 04:08 AM
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22. WingTV-Tuesday, August 31: Dave Von Kleist - 911 In Plane Site
You can hear the creator of the video 9/11 In Plane Site on WingTV.

http://69.28.73.17/todaysshow/todaysshow.html
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:37 PM
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3. Put on Flight 93 and shot down..
Is one possibility.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:38 PM
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4. and put through the StarGate is just as likely...
:crazy:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:38 PM
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5. The Pa. Flight?
Have you seen this movie, MrSlayer?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:18 PM
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10. Except for the fact that too many body parts would have been found, then..
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 08:18 PM by MercutioATC
Remember, DNA was recovered at all four crash sites.

You're also left with the problem of how the switch was made. The radar data does NOT support a switching of planes.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:30 PM
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11. My Guess...

....bottom of the the Atlantic.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:42 PM
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12. He hit the nail on the head!
Fake passenger lists! I'm surprised it's taken this long for that part of the truth to come out!

I figured as much about 6 months ago!

Do you know who Ellen Mariani is?

http://www.blackopradio.com/black156a.ram

http://www.blackopradio.com/black156b.ram

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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:48 AM
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25. Plaintiff ELLEN MARIANI
is an adult individual and a citizen of the Defendant USA and is domiciled and a resident of the State of New Hampshire. On "911" Ellen Mariani and Louis Neil Mariani were domiciled in New Hampshire. Plaintiff is the surviving wife of decedent Louis Neil Mariani, who died on "911" as a fare-paying passenger in the crash of United Airlines Flight 175 into the South Tower of the World Trade Center.

According at least to her own stated case:

http://www.nancho.net/911/mariani.html

So United Airlines faked the pasenger lists especially to leave themselves unecessarily open to law suits, is that what you are trying to say?

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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:39 AM
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14. So exactly how big is "waaaaay too small"
anyway?
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:47 AM
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16. Cleveland?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:31 PM
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17. I work at the ATC facility that worked UAL93. It did NOT land at Cleveland
It entered our high-altitude sectors from the East, made it to the Cleveland area, stopped talking to controllers, tirned east, and crashed near Shanksville, PA. It was monitored all the way down. We didn't lose radar contact with it over Cleveland.
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:27 PM
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18. I agree with you
It was not UA 93 who landed in Cleveland besides Delta 1989.



The Secret Hijacking

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=685







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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 03:29 PM
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21. Sheesh...
:eyes: :tinfoilhat: :eyes:
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:22 AM
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33. Interesting....
and seems to have caught one usually verbose poster quite off balance. Still retains the use of those all powerful tin foil smilies though.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:35 PM
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35. I've seen some pretty desperate reaches here.
I'm not caught off balance, I just don't see a reason to reply to a scenario THIS unsupported.

I could say that Santa took his reindeer out for a test flight and did it. I wouldn't expect a serious rebuttal from anybody.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:39 AM
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26. Read Operation NorthWoods
The passenger lists were faked.

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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:03 AM
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29. The flights were all regular flights

that flew every day.

If the passenger lists were faked, and all the ticket sales were faked, and those who went to the airports to see people off were faked, and thre popel who collected body parts were faked, and the autopsies were faked, then where are the passengers who really did buy tickets for the regular flights, or how at least would they be prevented from buying tickets?

If you can find somebody who was prevented from buying or selling a ticket or a reservation, or somebody whose purchase was cancelled, maybe then you've got a story.

But please excuse if we wont be holding breath while we wait.

What number of persons and agencies would need to be involved with such a cancellation?

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