Massive anti-Israel protests hits several Indonesian cities

[Roland99]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=afp/mideastjerusalemindonesiaprotest

JAKARTA (AFP) - Tens of thousands of Muslim Indonesians held a peaceful anti-Israel protest and rallied outside the US embassy in what police said appeared to be the largest demonstration the city has seen in years.

Local radio reported that thousands of others held similar marches in several other cities and towns across the archipelago to protest what they called Israel's oppression of the Palestinian people and alleged threats to the al-Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem, a site considered holy for Muslims as well as Jews.

The Indonesian demonstrations came one week after a leader of the radical Palestinian movement Hamas appealed to "the entire Muslim world" to protect al-Aqsa.

He made the appeal on April 10 as up to 10,000 Palestinians, backed by senior members of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, formed a mass human shield at the al-Aqsa mosque against any possible threat to the site by Israeli ultra-nationalists.

All of this focus on the Middle East and this administration has largely ignored Indonesia.

[Jdemsindiana]

1. I guess

with all of the poverty and the massive Tsunamis I guess this had to be at the top of the agenda right even though they are thousands of miles away from the conflict and have nothing to do with it

[Colorado Blue]

2. You forget, it was rumoured that a joint Israeli/Indian project

(under the ocean floor, using nukes) actually CAUSED the earthquake and the tsunami.

I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been a UN RESOLUTION about this earthquake and the tsunami.

"RESOLVED: Israel should hereby STOP CAUSING EARTHQUAKES AND TSUNAMIS!"

That's probably gonna come up, eventually.

Oy.

[Coastie for Truth]

3. Yeah - The Israelis and Indians caused the Earthquakes and the Tsunamis

This from a nation whose economic survival depends on a national intellectual treasure of first class, world class geologists.

Some how, Sri Lanka and Thailand, and India had no problem with Israel Magen David Adom aid -- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/01/15/MNGNVAR2JM1.DTL (Sri Lanka rejected Israeli military medical aid from "MASH" type units but accepted civilian docs from Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem). But Indonesia -- stealth docs and unmarked medical supplies.

In Indonesia you get blamed for being evil even when you do good.

[Violet_Crumble]

4. Yeah, those nasty Indonesians!

What with them living all the way on the other side of the world and thinking they have any sort of right to peacefully protest when *we* don't agree with what they're protesting against!! You get blamed for being evil even when you do good! Just like they did to the US when they had large peaceful protests against the war in Iraq! How dare they! And if there's another round of global anti-war protests, I bet those ingrate Indonesians will forget all about the disaster aid and blame the US for being evil even when they do good!! btw, I didn't know that aid was actually meant to buy silence when it came to the public protesting against totally unrelated things like military occupations...

Violet...

[Coastie for Truth]

5. As they say in Oklahoma

That's a fine howdy-do.

[Coastie for Truth]

7. Serious (seismic) questions

Do you believe that some kind of a joint Israeli/Indian project (under the ocean floor, using nukes, maybe clandestine nuclear weapons tests) actually CAUSED the earthquake and the tsunami?

Or, do you believe that British-Dutch (as in Shell Oil) seismic exploration for oil - or tertiary recovery of the oil actually CAUSED the earthquake and the tsunami?

Or, do you believe that something more mundane, like the movement of the earth's tectonic plates, actually CAUSED the earthquake and the tsunami?

And, do you think that (pick one) the US//Australia//Japan had some ulterior motive in detecting but not broadcasting warning of the tsunami.

Just tracking down things I've seen on some web sites.

[Violet_Crumble]

8. No. No. Yes. No...

[eyl]

9. They have every right to peacefully protest

But we have an equal right to express our opinions of their protest.

[Violet_Crumble]

10. Did I argue that you didn't?

Must have missed that bit, I guess :shrug:

Violet...

[eyl]

14. Not exactly, but

your phrasing implied everyone criticising them was somehow denying the Indonesians' right to protest.

[Violet_Crumble]

15. Try Not At All..

There was nothing of the sort implied in my phrasing. Of course if that could be read into my words, then you'd have a hard time explaining why the same implication wasn't read into the original reaction to the article about the protests in Indonesia, seeing as how the phrasing was pretty much the same...

Violet...

[eyl]

16. Jdemsindiana never said or implied

the Indonese didn't have a right to protest, only that it was foolish of them to do so.

[Violet_Crumble]

17. And I never said or implied...

...hat posters didn't have a right to complain about peaceful protests. So please don't put words in my mouth and then hold another poster's comments to a completely different standard...

btw, I replied to Coastie, not that jdems thing...

Violet...

[Jdemsindiana]

11. Lets see here does East Timor ring a bell

Indonesians had massive Islamic Fundy anti-Israel protests when they brutally occupied East Timor and actually did massacre thousands of East Timorese or did you not remember that again whats with the selective short term memory?

[DemBoom]

6. Temple Mount

The WAQF has been undermining the Mosque for years, removing as many traces as possible relating to the Jewish presence on the Holy site.

Could be the Temple Mount is getting ready to collapse, and the Mosque along with it...guess who's gonna get the blame!

Exclusive: Dumped Temple Mount Rubble Yields Jewish Artifacts
Arutz Sheva
23:09 Apr 14, '05 / 5 Nisan 5765

A historic excavation has been taking place in an eastern Jerusalem valley for the past six months: the first-ever archaeological examination of the Temple Mount.

Arutz-7's Ezra HaLevi has taken an exclusive inside look into one of the most important and unique archaeological explorations in history - currently in danger of going unfinished due to lack of funding.

Click to hear the related Israel National Radio interview

In November 1999, the Islamic Wakf carried out an illegal construction project on the Temple Mount, Judaism’s holiest site. The unsupervised digging caused irreparable damage to the important site, as well as to untold priceless artifacts contained in rubble removed during the construction and dumped clandestinely in the Kidron Valley.

Though the archaeological remains were no longer in their original contexts, they held enormous potential to shed light on the undocumented human history of the Temple Mount, as systematic archaeological excavation or scientific study have never taken place there. The mounds of dirt in the Kidron Valley therefore contained the only available data from the Temple Mount to which modern archaeologists have ever had access.

[Jdemsindiana]

12. Here's the plan

Remove any evidence jews were ever in Palestine and then take it away from them

[Colorado Blue]

13. This is in spite of the fact that certain passages of Koran

appear to substantiate the Jewish claim on this land.

Of course, since this is now being taught, the predictable reaction has set in: people in Kuwait are accusing the Jews of having rewritten the Koran.

The Kuwaitis, of course, have a god-given right to "Kuwait".