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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 03:47 PM
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Fifty-five Arab states can testify against fence
Fifty-five Arab states including Afghanistan and Cameron can now testify against the security fence through the Organization of the Islamic Conference when the contentious case comes before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at The Hague on February 23, the court ruled on Thursday.

The decision follows an ICJ ruling by the ICJ last week that the Arab League may testify.

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While the government has stated its opposition to the case and is working to prevent it from being brought to trial, it has held its specific strategy close to its chest.

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The Palestinian Authority has recruited a team of ten international lawyers from various countries who are working with the PA's legal advisors on the case. The PA's UN observer Nasser al Kidra will head the team to the Hague. Palestinian official have no doubt that the court will state that the fence's routing is illegal.

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Russia has not yet decided what they will do , but assured Shaath "that they oppose the fence and will work against this unilateral action," even if they stay away from the Hague, Khalidi said.

The Eu is divided on the issue. Britain and Germany are among the countries which opposed going to the Hague. The EU therefore decided on Tuesday that each country will take its own decision.

Kahlidi said the Palestinians expect some European states to join the petition to the Hague.

The US has not said what they will do, but Palestinian officials believe America will continue to oppose the routing of the fence without presenting an opinion to the Hague.

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They argue that the fence is a permanent structure which pre-determines borders rather than offer protection to Israeli from Palestinian suicide bombers.

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Israel has not yet decided whether to send anyone to the court to present an oral statement but it is sending it written statements as to why the case should not be heard by the January 30 deadline.

It is taking the matter seriously nonetheless. It is negotiating with two international public relations firms to help it craft its message during the propaganda battle that is sure to accompany the proceedings.

Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has spoken to the Israelis. British international law expert Daniel Bethlehem is helping craft an argument as to why the case should not be heard.

Israel is also working a quick image boost by changing the name to the 'anti-terrorism fence,' to combat propagandistic phrases that opponents are using to describe the fence, such as 'the Berlin Wall' or the 'apartheid wall.'


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1074745159500

So much for world justice at the Hague.
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:12 PM
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1. Fences make good neighbors.
Israel has the right to defend it's borders.

The difference between the Israeli fence and the Berlin wall is simple. The Berlin Wall was meant to keep people in. The Israeli fence is meant to keep terrorists out.

Now I will make a HUGE exception for the portions of the fence that reportedly divide Palestinian communities. That is absolutely WRONG!!!

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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:19 PM
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2. if it was meant to keep Palestinians out of Israel
it would be built along the border of Israel and the West Bank. Instead in many area it cuts deeply into Palestinian territory. It's a land grab plain and simple.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:20 PM
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3. Very
true...
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:33 PM
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5. Correct
I think you'll find you're on the side of Meretz, in Israel.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:24 PM
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4. Israel must immediately launch airstrikes against these 55 countries

The US will pay for it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:02 PM
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:30 PM
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8. Does Judy know?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:37 PM
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:21 PM
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7. there aren't "fifty-five Arab states" in existance...
least of all the two mentioned by name at the start..
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:47 PM
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10. One should read the JPost more often. One might learn something.
For instance, that Afghanistan and Cameroon are Arab states.

I didn't know that. Did you?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:00 AM
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11. YOU didn't know that? Imagine the astonishment in Cameroon and Afghanistan

Things have gone a little hectic in some of those 55 countries since the JPost revelation hit, everybody running around with those little Berlitz books and getting all tangled up in their new ghutras....
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:16 AM
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14. LOL
!!
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:43 AM
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13. Lumping together
I think they are lumping together Arab and Muslim states which do tend to vote in lockstep on the issues surrounding I/P.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:06 AM
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12. Well,if Dersch is involved
you know that integrity is number one!

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