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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 03:15 AM
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Time: Bibi and Barack: Can They Bridge the Gap?
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 03:19 AM by depakid
The relationship between President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu hit rock bottom in the late afternoon of Friday, March 12, 2010, Jerusalem time. That is when Netanyahu took a call from U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Upset at Israel's announcement three days earlier of a massive expansion of housing units in occupied East Jerusalem just as Vice President Joe Biden arrived for a goodwill visit, Obama had asked Clinton to call Netanyahu and dress him down. The President was "deeply offended and hurt" by what had happened, Clinton told Netanyahu, according to senior Israeli and American officials familiar with the call. Clinton laid out a series of steps Netanyahu needed to take to repair the damage. Nir Barkat, the mayor of Jerusalem, described the call as a "slap in the face." "It was the lowest point" in the relationship between the two men, says a senior Israeli official.

Obama and Netanyahu are two profoundly different politicians with divergent personalities and worldviews, and over the course of three years, six face-to-face meetings and frequent phone calls, their relationship has never been a natural one. The two men had been scheduled to meet Tuesday June 1 for a seventh time in Washington at Obama's invitation to again try to overcome their differences, when the deadly Israeli raid of a flotilla of Gaza-bound aid ships early Monday forced Netanyahu to return home early, canceling the meeting.

As the White House voiced "deep regret" over the deaths and Israel defended its actions, the incident showed how hard a rapprochement between two politicians with such different outlooks and instincts will be. Obama, a former professor, is impassive and pragmatic; Netanyahu, a former commando, is macho and proud. Obama reaches out to rivals; Netanyahu confronts them. Outsiders, some with their own agendas, have made things worse. Obama Administration officials suspect Netanyahu of intentionally undermining U.S. diplomatic initiatives. Prominent Israelis, including Netanyahu's brother-in-law, publicly accuse Obama of anti-Semitism, citing his association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his father's Muslim background.

...Netanyahu is a man with a compelling family history. His older brother led the 1976 raid on Entebbe and was killed, becoming a national hero. His father Benzion, 100, was among the intellectual leaders of what is known as revisionist Zionism, a movement whose members first sought to create a Jewish state in British-controlled Palestine in the 1930s, pushed to expand it into East Jerusalem and the West Bank and formed the core of what would later become the Likud Party. In Tel Aviv in 1949, a year after Israel's founding, Benjamin "was born into the ideological wing of the Likud," says a Netanyahu staffer. "It's deeply ingrained." His politics are determined by this history. "Netanyahu thinks of a direct line from Moses down to him — at the minimum, he has to be a guardian <of the Jewish state>," says his sometime political opponent, former Labor Party member and speaker of the Knesset Avrum Burg. Avishai Margalit, a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jesey, says, "The revisionists put tremendous weight on symbols and declarations. Netanyahu thinks that the minute he stops making symbolic gestures, that's the end of the Israeli cause."

More: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1992200,00.html#ixzz0q3gO5FKV

IMO, this guy and others in his government are every bit as disgusting as the current leaders in Iran and North Korea- and just as detrimental to their people.

I'll support the Obama administration in whatever move he has to make to put them in their place.


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 03:29 AM
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1. I question if a reasonable relationship will ever be between those two.
I suspect Obama will try to make it so, but BEBE is more arrogant that Shrub was, so I doubt they will ever be friends.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 03:43 AM
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2. Netanyahu wants to dictate terms, always has, always will
and needs somebody to set a few limits.

Why on earth did the people of Israel elect that lunatic? Wasn't once enough for them?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 03:45 AM
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3. I don't know what their place would be. This must be the way other world leaders felt
dealing with Cheney/Rumsfeld when they were running things. Incompetence plus insane ideology plua arrogance, very dangerous.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 07:31 AM
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4. The Gap? Uh, I think this is going Old Navy. Maybe even Banana Republic.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:08 AM
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5. Bibi, Barak, and Lieberman should be standing trial at The Hague
The only gap between them should be the one as they hang together. Too bad there is no death penalty at the ICC.

As to our own Barack Obama, the only issue is whether he will stand up to Israel, or join his predecessors in enabling Israeli crimes against humanity.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:12 AM
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6. Bibi does not like or trust Obama at all.
He is too arrogant to. Bibi has been friendly with Biden for years and treated him like crap....he barely knows Obama.
Obama has the option of using this incident to force changes on the blockade. But the trust gap will always be there.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:21 AM
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7. Bibi is the Israeli version of our Newt Gingrich
a pompous ass, a demagogue, and an opportunist.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:23 AM
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8. Yup....I would totally agree with that. A RW idiot.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:25 AM
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9. A RW idiot that grew up in Philadelphia
and adopted all of Frank Rizzo's thuggery.
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