GUNS OF THE DAY - TAX DAY 15 Apr 04

[Superfly]

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[Superfly]

1. Today's gun of the day...

a nod to G-men and tax collectors of days of old, the Thompson SMG was used by criminals like Al Capone (busted for tax evasion) and the feds alike. It saw years of service in the US Armed forces up to and including the Vietnam conflict.

[demsrule4life]

2. The S&W 38/44

developed to shoot through cars that were so commonly used by the 1920-30 era gangsters. This pistol and caliber is the father of the .357 Mag.

[Superfly]

3. My favorite pistol is my Model 27

.357 Mag. What a great shooter. Not practical for CCW, unless you're Andre the Giant, but it is a capable backwoods gun and home defense weapon. Plus, target shooting the 357 on an N Frame revolver is really a pleasure.

On edit...this is exactly the gun I have next to my bed. Only thing I don't like is the square butt grip, which I plan on replacing with rounded butt Hogue exotics...

[demsrule4life]

4. The gun I have owned the longest

is a M-27 6 inch I bought in 75. Also have one with a 5 inch tapered barrel.

[MrBenchley]

5. Man Wanted in Police Shooting Dies After Chase (CA)

"A parolee wanted for shooting a CHP officer in Watsonville died in a shootout Wednesday.
Authorities believe that Donald Bouchat, 21, wounded the officer last Saturday during a confrontation. Bouchat escaped, but investigators tracked him to the Visalia area. Police say he carjacked someone there, and then led them on a high-speed chase.
Investigators say Bouchat finally crashed the car, and then opened fire. Officers shot and killed him."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kpix/20040415/lo_kpix/9769

[Superfly]

6. Good work, Police!

I was carjacked about 1 1/2 years ago (they failed). Eventhough I had a gun on my person, the last thing I wanted to do was throw down and start a shootout. The only thing I wanted to do was un-ass the area and get home, call the cops, and have a beer to calm my nerves.

[demsrule4life]

7. I will have to admit

Ca cops do save the tax payers lots of money.

[iverglas]

21. hmm

Ca cops do save the tax payers lots of money.

I wonder how much money the cop injured in the incident at the root of this story will be costing the taxpayer. Depending on the extent of the injury, it could be full disability pension for decades.

All because somebody who REALLY OBVIOUSLY should not have had a firearm had one.

Of course, now he's dead. So there's nothing to worry about. Not the injured cop; not what s/he will be costing the taxpayer in health care and/or rehabilitation and/or pension, all totally pointless losses to the public treasury; not whatever financial or emotional hardship this will cause to him/her and his/her family ...

Heck, just think. If the bad guy had actually *killed* the cop, that would have saved even more money.

.

[demsrule4life]

22. Since the asshole was a parolee

It was already not legal for him to have a gun. And all the crying in the world wouldn't of kept him from getting one.

[iverglas]

24. "crying"?

Goodness knows what you're on about now.

Since the asshole was a parolee
It was already not legal for him to have a gun.
And all the crying in the world wouldn't of kept him
from getting one.

If you are suggesting that NOTHING would have (it's "would have" -- "would HAVE", not "would of"!!!) prevented him from getting a firearm ... well, what I'm seeing is a big fat old blatant assertion without a shred of anything to back it up.

You folks really seem to have all the evidence you need that making it "not legal" for certain people to have firearms doesn't prevent them from getting firearms. The people in question simply are not deterred from doing things they are prohibited from doing by the mere threat of punishment.

Cripes, the fact that they are already convicted criminals might have been your first clue.

So the question is: are you actually the slightest bit interested in preventing them from getting firearms??

And if so (that being an open question in my mind), do any of you actually have any bright ideas about how to go about accomplishing that goal, or at least reducing the number of guns in criminal hands and the number of criminals with guns in their hands?

I mean, other than shooting them on sight, or arranging for a cop to shoot them ...

.

[Township75]

8. Today's gun of the day is the Remington Model 332™ Over/Under

In 12 gauge.

The Model 332™ isn't so much a new field gun as a rebirth of a field-shooting classic — the celebrated Remington Model 32™. It's all here. The time-honored lines. The balance. The feel. The same 100% Remington reliability. In fact, the only difference is the state-of-the-art lock design and the performance of modern metallurgy and manufacturing technology. It's these differences that make it a truly superior field gun for the 21st century.

[MrBenchley]

9. Student arrested for bringing gun to West M (OH)

"ZANESVILLE -- Officials with the Muskingum County Sheriff's Office and the West Muskingum Local School District are investigating an incident of a student taking a loaded gun to the high school.
Officers from the sheriff's office were called to West Muskingum High School around noon Wednesday after receiving reports of a student allegedly threatening another student with a gun.
Sheriff Bob Stephenson said the gun, a .380-caliber, semi-automatic handgun, was loaded.
The 14-year-old male was taken to the Muskingum County Juvenile Detention Center around 1 p.m. Stephenson said other students could be involved. "

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/news/stories/20040415/localnews/235951.html

[Township75]

10. This is OH and not KY, right ?

Did you double check and use mapquest.com Bench?

[FatSlob]

11. He got it right this time.

It was bound to happen sometime.

[Township75]

13. Maybe he resorted to flipping a coin?

?

[demsrule4life]

17. How does he check his answers

flip again?

[Township75]

19. LOL!

!

[MrBenchley]

12. Gun-packing student returns to school (ID)

"IDAHO FALLS — The Snake River School District will allow a 5-year-old boy who packed a gun to Moreland Elementary School to return for classes, but his backpack will be searched every day and he´ll get constant supervision.
Officials made the decision after carefully evaluating the April 2 incident, said School Board chairman Steve Reader.
The student carried his father´s Springfield .38-caliber pistol and two ammunition clips to school, but he did not shoot or intend to harm anyone, officials concluded. "

http://www.idahostatesman.com/Story.asp?ID=65382

Anybody care to guess why there's no jail time for the father?

[MrBenchley]

14. Hand search fails to detect forgotten loaded firearm at Yeager Airport

Homeland Security in action...why IS Tom Ridge still employed?

"CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — A woman who forgot she had a loaded 9 mm handgun in her carry-on luggage went undetected through security at Yeager Airport before she reported the weapon to a gate agent.
The woman had placed the gun in her bag in a closet at her home after a recent burglary. She packed the bag for her flight Tuesday and "completely forgot it was in there," said Chris Rhatigan, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration.
Neither airport police nor TSA would release the woman's name."


http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-04-14-crw-gun_x.htm

[MrSandman]

26. Second time this year at Yeager

[MrBenchley]

15. Youth shot at Fremont school (CA)

"FREMONT -- A pickup basketball game at Grimmer Elementary School turned violent Wednesday afternoon when an armed robbery attempt left a young man shot in the abdomen and the suspected gunman in the hospital with head trauma, police said.
No children were at the school because of spring break this week, and a YMCA daycare group based there was away on a Lake Elizabeth field trip at the time of the incident. "

http://www.dailyreviewonline.com/Stories/0,1413,88~10973~2085525,00.html

[MrBenchley]

16. 10 Okla. suspects accused of illegally selling guns in Baltimore

"A federal grand jury in Tulsa has indicted 10 Okmulgee residents for trafficking firearms, according to a federal prosecutor.
U.S. Attorney David O'Melia said the 10 are accused of buying about 240 semiautomatic handguns from gun dealers in Tulsa, Oklahoma City and Broken Arrow and taking the guns to Baltimore.
The guns were then sold on the streets at inflated prices to people prohibited from owning a gun, including felons, O'Melia said Wednesday."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/crime/bal-arms0415,0,2734048.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

[MrBenchley]

18. Couple found dead of gunshot wounds (IN)

"Mary McConnaughey and her husband, Roy McConnaughey, were found dead of gunshot wounds Wednesday in their Clinton home.
The Vermillion County Sheriff's Department is investigating the two deaths as a possible murder/suicide, said Sheriff Kim Hawkins.
Joan Hensley of Clinton, daughter of the McConnaugheys, called the Sheriff's Department shortly before noon and said she found a note taped to the window of her parents home at 1644 E. Houston St., the sheriff said. She told police that the note advised her to call the police, he said."

http://www.tribstar.com/articles/2004/04/15/news/news02.txt

[MrBenchley]

20. 4 Face First-Degree Murder In Uptown Parade Shooting

"Four people were indicted Thursday in connection with a fatal shooting at an Uptown Carnival parade.
An Orleans Parish grand jury charged Carlos Miller, 16, Adrian Norris, 17, Alvin Danquell Wilson, 18, and Ray Smith, 20, with first-degree murder in the death of Latasha Bell, 20.
The shooting happened Feb 18. in the 2000 block of St. Charles Avenue during the Krewe of Muses parade. "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040415/lo_wdsu/2097422

[MrBenchley]

23. Fort Campbell officer robs bank, surrenders

And remember, the NRA is working out of Chimpy's office...

"KEOKUK, Iowa (AP) -- A Fort Campbell, Ky., soldier who police say robbed a bank and then surrendered just wanted to go to jail, Keokuk police said. "He told us he couldn't take it any more," police Capt. Kevin Church said.
"The robbery wasn't for financial reasons. He wasn't doing it because he needed the money, and we know he didn't want to hurt anybody. He wanted to be in a cell."
Master Sgt. Kenneth Lee Schweitzer, 38, of Louisville, Ky., walked into the Keokuk Savings Bank in southeast Iowa about 3 p.m. Tuesday, fired a large caliber handgun into the air and demanded cash, police said.
Schweitzer, a member of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, left the bank, climbed into his pickup truck and drove to the police department, where he turned himself in. "

http://www.wsmv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1789092&nav=1TcTMKgp

[MrBenchley]

25. Double Shooting Happens Near Houston High-Rise

"A man was transported to a hospital after police said an attempted murder-suicide took place outside a Museum District high-rise Wednesday.
Witnesses said a woman got into an argument with a man in the front driveway of the Warwick Towers around 4 p.m..
When the man turned and began to walk away, the woman reportedly pulled out a gun and shot him before she turned the gun on herself. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=320&ncid=320&e=4&u=/ibsys/20040415/lo_kprc/2096867

[gulfcoastliberal]

27. Russian VEPR II

Bought it online used from a private party off the net who's in the same state so no need to FFL transfer. The thing looks badass. Came with 40, 30 and 10 round clips. Also came with a russian 20X spotting scope and 600 rounds of 7.62X39 hollow points. Today I'm getting 100 rounds of AP ammo I also bought online cheap. Taking it to range tomorrow for some fun! They call the VEPR the HK of the AKs since it so so well made, being based on the RPK squad machine gun so it's built like a tank - heavy at 9 lbs. Cold forged chrome barrel (very accurate) and receiver made by MOLOT, imported by robsinson arms.

[MrSandman]

28. Clerk's gun trumps knife in robbery try(MA)

WILMINGTON A knife-wielding robber fled empty handed but unharmed after his victim pulled a gun on him Sunday night, according to police.

The unidentified man went into Forest Service Center at 316 Lowell St. about 8:15 p.m. asking for change to use in a vending machine, Police Chief Bernard P. Nally said.

The clerk left the office to tend to a customer and when he returned the man asked for more change
http://www.lowellsun.com/Stories/0,1413,105~4761~2086222,00.html


Again...Rule # 1: Have a gun.