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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:02 PM
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Kenner business owner shoots, kills alleged robber late Friday
A Kenner business owner shot and killed a would-be robber and wounded one of the alleged thief's two accomplices during a tussle around 9 p.m. Friday, outside his check-cashing store in the 3200 block of Williams Boulevard.

The second alleged assailant was taken to University Hospital and is expected to a be booked with armed robbery, according to the Kenner Police Department.

The third alleged robber remains on the loose. Authorities did not immediately have a detailed description of the man but said the two suspects who were shot had identification cards from Honduras.

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One of the men produced a revolver, struck the owner in the head with it, then grabbed the man's backpack and pushed him into a nearby alley, according to a news release issued Saturday morning by Detective Shaun Watson.

The owner dropped his backpack, retrieved from it his own weapon and shot the would-be robber, who died on the scene, Watson said.


http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/01/kenner_business_owner_shoots_k.html
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:09 PM
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1. Wow.
Grace under pressure.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:31 PM
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2. "One of the men produced a revolver"
This robbery was emboldened by a gun.

Zero points awarded.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:47 PM
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3. Ah, the majic gun theory. nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:50 PM
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6. It's so sad you make a game out of a man's death.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:54 PM
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7. That goose egg was for you, partner.
In your continuing quest to justify guns in society.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:03 PM
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8. Guns don't need justification they are a Constitutionally protected right.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:50 PM
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24. Sharesunited just cannot seem to grasp that fact at all. Its a waste of time.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:25 PM
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9. They don't need to be justified.
Their place has been a proven fact for hundreds of years.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:26 PM
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10. Zero Logic.
Business as usual for SU.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:40 AM
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11. How did the gun embolden the robbery? nt
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:21 AM
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13. By enabling the robber to form the belief that his victim would be compliant or could be overcome.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:44 AM
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14. How do you distinguish
the formation of that belief from the belief that a potential victim armed with the same weapon would have that an assailant "would be compliant or could be overcome"?
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:53 AM
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15. By the most important distinction of all.
Formation of the robber's belief begins the trouble.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:05 PM
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16. That's a non sequitur.
How do you distinguish one belief from the other? The assailant has a belief, and the victim has a belief. What's the difference?
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:23 PM
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17. Your insistence on their equivalency cannot be genuine. You're faking bewilderment.
And your abject refusal to admit that the difference not only matters but is self-evident is typical of the denial which exists throughout America's gun worshiping culture.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:29 PM
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18. Of course there's a difference. Can you describe it? nt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 06:01 PM
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32. So what, oh great swami, emboldens unarmed crime? n/t
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:44 PM
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19. Actually, gun robberies result in the fewest injuries to the victims.
Knife robbers often cut their victims at least once to show they mean business and to establish situation dominance. Muggers, by definition always strike and usually injure their victims. Becuase a gun is so powerful, the gun robber feels assured of dominance from the start.

Sometimes any of those type of criminals may kill a compliant victim anyway.

If the victim has a gun to fight back with they signifigantly reduce their chance of injury. Those who fight back with guns suffer injury at a rate lower than any other category, especially compliant-victim. That categorey gets hurts the most often, usually by the mugger or the knife guy.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:56 PM
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20. In other words, more guns = safer holdups? What an angle!
Maybe the NRA is hiring in their public relations department.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:00 PM
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21. It is a fact. That you don't like the fact is beside the point.
Do you dispute the fact that a mugger always hits their victim?

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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:07 PM
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22. I like that you are arguing the "fact" as a justification for guns in society.
It sounds so absurdly rosy! A real glass-half-full outlook!
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:59 PM
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26. No justification is needed.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 06:09 PM
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33. Just correcting your profound ignorance. N/T
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:38 PM
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35. What fact based solutions do you bring to the discussion? nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:58 PM
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25. Law abiding citizens with more guns, criminals with fewer guns=safer country.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:06 PM
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27. The more there are, the easier they are to get. Proliferation is the problem.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:00 PM
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28. Surely there is a way to reduce "proliferation" without hurting the law abiding.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:36 PM
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34. There is a question pending.
From posts #14, 16, and #18.

Run to the roundhouse Nell! He can't corner you there!

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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:56 PM
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31. Serious question, a yes or no will do.
From the angles you try to explain away the fault of criminals, I have to ask....do you have a relative in prison that you feel was wrongly convicted?

Just trying to fathom your view of things, thanks.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:49 PM
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23. The stupid...
It BURNS!!!
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:08 PM
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29. Surely, you have statistics to prove that the proliferation of guns has emboldened (increased)
the occurrence of violent crimes?

Don't they keep stats on the number of guns out there and the incidence of violent crime?
You are always raising this point. What substance can you provide to establish its veracity?
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:48 PM
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4.  check-cashing store?
Robbers robbing robbers.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:49 PM
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5. Ain't that the truth.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:41 AM
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12. Yep. nt
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:53 PM
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30. Merchants - taking good-paying jobs away from ICE employees.
:rofl:
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