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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:57 PM
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Nazi Prince Harry:Canada,Aussie under his total rule someday?
Am i correct in recalling that Australia's elected liberal PM was tossed by Queen Eliz, about ten years ago?

I just read at DU that Canada is also a constitu. monarchy, under the same Elizabeth.

QUESTION:

Can canada also be directly controlled by QE, as Austriala was? To the extent of booting a PM. What other Commonwealth nations are also so backward?

QUESTION 2:
Is it not true, that if the firstborn of Charles "checks out", then Nazi Harry will have rulership over Canada and Australia, possibly other Commonwealth nations?

Please dont waste time debating if Harry is really a Nazi. For this post, take that as an assumption in order to get at the other points i raised. Thanks. PS I think Elizabeth's ten billion should go to the poor, and Elizabeth should work at a bakery as the dough girl. LOL.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:02 PM
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1. The royal family no longer has the ability to affect Canadian policy.
As for Australia, I don't know.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:56 PM
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7. But can the GG toss the PM, as happened in aussie?
that is power, is it not?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:20 PM
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2. The monarch is the head of state
in Canada.

But as in the UK, the monarch has specific rights and powers well defined in law.

There is no 'off with their heads' or even ordering people about.

Did you lose ALL contact with Britain since 1776?

Answers...the Queen did not 'toss' any PM anywhere...out.

Harry is third in line to the throne...Elizabeth, Charles, Wills, Harry.

When Wills marries, his children will come before Harry.

For Harry to gain the throne right now, 3 people would have to die. Always possible, but unlikely.

Backward?? We aren't embroiled in foreign wars, you are.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:00 PM
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8. calm down Maple, i love canada. Just referring to the monarchy bit
if you folks are really curbing the crown, then i dont see you as fully backward. Tho i wish you would fully erase monarchism.

canada is a good model , 99% of the time, for what the US should be. I must visit someday. I hear so many good things about canada and the people there.

Love you all,
oscar
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 04:16 PM
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11. The answer to Oscar's question is a resounding YES...
The GG did indeed toss out a democratically elected PM. Now if yr going to try to argue that the GG is merely an appointee of the Queen, has nothing to do with her, and is not the head of state, that argument doesn't work, as the Queen is the ceremonial head of state, while the GG is her representative and is the effective head of state. And while the duties of the head of state is for the most part ceremonial stuff like cutting ribbons and opening new buildings and stuff, the head of state has Reserve Powers, which give them a hell of a lot of power. I may be wrong, but the reserve powers had never been used by a GG until that drunken pig Kerr abused his position and dismissed the Whitlam government...

I don't agree with the view of many folk that what happened in 1975 was due to the monarchy. If we'd had a republic and a President it could have still happened. What was to blame was the ability of the Senate to block Supply bills, which means the Constitution is really crying out for reform, and also to blame is the GG involving himself in politics and taking sides and not consulting the Queen of what he was going to do, which was totally out of line, as sacking the PM is a massive move. If the Queen had been consulted, I doubt things would have happened any differently - she takes a stance of not getting involved in Australian politics, and if she'd stepped in she would have been accused of meddling in our politics. Her role in the thing was minimal and she was in a damned if she did and damned if she didn't position anyway...

Violet...
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kaho Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:31 PM
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3. Don't forget New Zealand...
...You refer to the dumping of the Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in 1975. Wikipedia has it all.
I don't think the British royal family was implicated, the dissolution of the Whitlam government by the then Governor General, and subsequent election(s) saw the eventual return of Labor. Whitlam of course is still alive and has covered the issue in his autobiography.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:48 PM
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4. Aussie PM tossed by Queen: recent penpal there said it happened
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 08:57 PM by oscar111
still puzzled on this one.

i clearly seem to recall the Queen did it. Penpal there, aussie, five months ago, said yes it happened that way.

Now my esteemed replyer just contracicted that. I am puzzled.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:52 PM
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5. ahem: isnt the GG the direct hand of the Queen? A post here by some canadi
canadian said THEIR GG is some sort of Queen's agent, whilst that poster was discussing some other point.

So if GG's are everywhere the agent of the crown, then the Aussie GG tossed the PM on orders of Elizabeth.

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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:55 PM
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6. Error 2: "eventual return of Labor" -but i recall a RW PM was the first PM
to follow in the wake of the Queen's intervention and tossing of the LW.

"Eventual" hides the ugly reality.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:53 PM
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9. No Dice, Bubba...
See...what happened was a snotty rich kid went to a private party and some other rich kid snapped a 'cel' of him...

He, then went and sold it for hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Media, which then syndicated the photo and flashed/printed/jpg'ed a 'Nazi symbol' all over the world...

Several thousand more pundits decided to comment on it...

This on the same news day...

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:55 PM
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10. An opportunity to post Whitlams lyrics!
Yay!

GOUGH

Little song about a man called Gough
and a little boy who wanted to be tarred with the same brush
He learnt Latin, held his head up high and he hated the
Liberals tho' he didn't know why

There were reasons - how long have you got?
There are always reasons - how long have you got?

The little boy he's on the stage tonight, his name is Anthony Hayes and he's doing alright
They both went to the same local Canberra school, but Stevie was nine in 1972

What a party - a big day for both of us
A big reason to party - a big day for both of us

Come over have dinner with me, we'll play chess and drink claret
Walk slowly down my little street, you can bring Margaret

November 11 was Armistice Day
A bushranger was slaughtered and Gough was betrayed
November 11 - he wouldn't survive the Governor General in '75

November 11 - a big day for all of us
I said November 11 - Ned Kelly died
Shame Fraser shame and we all cried
For you Gough you Gough you Gough
Edward Gough Whitlam
You Gough you Gough you Gough
Edward Gough Whitlam

Days of wine and roses, days of wine and roses
All the artists flew in and all the arseholes flew out in '72
For you Gough you Gough you Gough
Edward Gough Whitlam

Words & Music: Tim Freedman


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