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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 09:22 PM Original message |
We must stop the construction of this nuclear plant. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. We need nuclear plants. PERIOD. |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And store the radioactive waste where? QUESTION MARK? |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Done right there is very little waste! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Coal cinders are about as radioactive as Brazil nuts in pCi/g |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Those hot wastes would generate electricity. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Interesting. But if these engines are as wondrous as enthusiasts claim .. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Correct... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 04:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. If the engine's a good idea, you can simply dump solar heat into a .. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 05:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. LOL |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Nice mockery... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. No, waste temperatures can be well above the boiling point of water |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. In fact NASA has worked on this technology. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. Interesting... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 06:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Any idea of what the cube root of 196,000 is? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
55. Accusations + cube root = what? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 07:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. No accusations whatsoever. I'm asking if you can contain coal waste |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-18-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. I did not respond further as the comparison you suggest is meaningless: |
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oneold1-4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Information highway without directions. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Let's play chicken: I'll tell you where to keep so called nuclear waste... |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Like the hundreds of thousands of tons of CO2? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 07:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Well actually I was thinking of billions of tons of CO2. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yer right.... |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You can do solar at 1/5 the cost of nuclear? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Hey, you too |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Actually, a small CANDU type reactor is close to personal sized |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes! |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Well, that unit heated like 1000 dwelling units. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Durn.... |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Ben - some light reading for you... |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Thanks! nt |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. There's some pretty designs there. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Go solar? |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Just so! |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. What designs am I thinking of? |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Oh... Sorry... was addresssing the person you were responding to. nt |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Just kidding you, Ben. However, I note that BWR's and PWR's |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I have some solar, yes |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Your gameboy doesn't count. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Can't deliver, eh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Deleted message |
benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. And what will he do with the sulfuric acid and toxic lead acetate... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. He doesn't know and he doesn't care. |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Trade it in for the core refund. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Lead-acid battery recycling is a "greenwash". |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Once again |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You had better rethink that. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Batteries are recycled |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You think you can run a generator on pure ethanol? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. So, you are gonna quit... |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No, I am going to build a real infrastructure of power plants. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yeah right |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. And you still don't care about what happens... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. As always, the solar "do nothing" squad substitutes faux outrage... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. OK |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Well, NNadir's going a bit overboard... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. On my "on" days, I have all the patience of a grenade. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. yes, but don't shoot the messenger |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. A chicken and egg argument? |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yeah, it's whack-a-mole time |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. A bit? |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. No... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I would not characterize your avoidance of a question as "reasonable." |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. In fairness, solar has been producing several exajoules for centuries. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I just want you to think about the consequences. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Oh yes... |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. What are you going to do with all of the acid and lead waste from your... |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Going off-grid... |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
58. A very sound point. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You know, you're actually starting to make sense... |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. Thanks. I'm reading up on battery recycling problems, too. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Nothing springs to mind... |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Actually, there is one. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
25. Denmark solved their electricity problems through demand-side mgmt |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Another durn tree-hugger, eh? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Denmark found itself sitting on a lot of natural gas. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Of course we could. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-16-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Denmark also... |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
74. Note on methane hydrates... |
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