HOLY SHIT@!!!@!!

[XemaSab]

[Juneboarder]

1. I don't know how to interpret this...

can you please explain to me what this is showing?

[notesdev]

2. My guess

he thinks the lack of data at the north pole means there's no ice there

[Juneboarder]

4. Gotcha...

It just disappeared!! I turned around for two seconds and the North Pole is just gone!!

Hopefully just a glitch :)

[XemaSab]

8. No, ya dork

I mean that 4 days ago all those slushy areas on the north coasts were solid.

Clearly you don't spend much time around here. :P

[AtheistCrusader]

26. Look at the same month from last year.

As far as I know, this happens. I don't know if this shows it to a greater or lesser degree, but that's one place the ice is normal for weakening.

[XemaSab]

11. The ice is suddenly looking a lot weaker than it was looking a few days ago

which is what one would expect if the ice was very thin.

[thereismore]

3. I know that waters north of Scandinavia are normally open in the Summer (Gulf current), so

I am not alarmed.

[On the Road]

5. Is It Normal

for a good stretch of the north shore of Alaska to be ice free at this time of year?

[hatrack]

7. That's what I was wondering - Scandinavia, as noted above, not so worrying . . .

Not just ice-free conditions in much of the Chuckchi and Beaufort sectors, but lots of weakness well to the north.

[XemaSab]

9. Within the last 4 days

huge weak chunks have opened up.

Recall, also, that the area north of Baffin Island and Greenland is traditionally where the older sea ice congregates.

Here are the images from a few days ago:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=05&fd=31&fy=2010&sm=06&sd=04&sy=2010

[XemaSab]

10. Submitted for your perusal:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/CT/animate.arctic.color.4.html

[NYC_SKP]

6. More ice than last summer? Here's a little more about that, and the source:

Source: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/

If anything, it looks like a little more ice than we'd expect in June.

You can see in this image how it's been diminishing over time, most recent lower left is 2005, don't compare to the June 8, 2010 pic in OP as these are all Sept images.



:shrug:

[XemaSab]

12. Happy solstice!

:hi:

[phantom power]

13. Happy solstice! Loss gradient should be at its peak today

:patriot:

[XemaSab]

14. .

[joshcryer]

15. Do you have the 26th somewhere?

I can't remember how they differed, though I don't remember as much green last time.

:O

[joshcryer]

16. Nevermind, I found the animation link posted upthread:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/CT/animate.arctic.color.4.html

:O :O :O

[XemaSab]

17. All that slush is heading right for the Transpolar Drift

:o

[hatrack]

18. Good thing there's a mere 2.5 months left until seasonal minimum

Going to be an interesting summer.

Really, really interesting.

[joshcryer]

20. It's making me want to reassess my sea ice volume estimate. :P

[XemaSab]

22. This says it all:

[pscot]

23. That is an appalling goddamned picture

We may be going to see something no human has ever seen before.

[joshcryer]

27. OMFG when you put it that way.

:(

[joshcryer]

28. My god.

[XemaSab]

24. Here's your prediction from 2007

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=116739&mesg_id=116854

[joshcryer]

19. I cannot believe how fast it is disintegrating.

:o

[joshcryer]

21. Hudson Bay was the same color as that big green patch just 5 short days ago.

I wonder if the collapse can be expected to be that quick. It is almost certain at this point, that it will collapse to some significant extent, but the whole swath in 5 days would be freaking insane. Going to keep a sharp eye out on this one...

[OnlinePoker]

25. Canadian Ice Services

Seems like CIS were overly optimistic about the melt this year.

http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/FECN15CWIS/20100616000000_FECN15CWIS_0005034265.txt

I also read earlier this week but can't find the reference that most ice experts don't believe we'll surpass the loss from 2007. I'm pretty sure we will given the state of the melt so far.

[joshcryer]

29. Kick. :o

:o

[HysteryDiagnosis]

30. Looks like....

ICEES for Everyone!!!

[joshcryer]

31. Kick! Any sea ice volume updates?

[hatrack]

32. No, they're still stuck on the 6/18 report

And as for Cryosphere Today, what's the delay?

:shrug:

[XemaSab]

33. .

:(

[Systematic Chaos]

34. Probably too scared to post anything.

That or their jaws hit the floor and got lost somewhere.

[joshcryer]

35. Probably did not expect the results and want to confirm, and reconfirm.

[XemaSab]

36. Here's the cap:

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2010193.aqua.2km

Looks to me like the whole cap is MASSIVELY unstable. Large cracked areas all over the place.

This may not translate well into imagery based on percent open water, though.

[Dead_Parrot]

37. Wumpety.

What's interesting is, there really is a black-ish circle in the middle:



I always assumed it was just an artifact...



:silly:

[Systematic Chaos]

40. That picture on the bottom looks so bad ass, I would love to get it screened on a T-shirt.

Looks like a big black hole dragging in matter from an unseen source over on the right side.

[XemaSab]

43. I think that crappy patch on the photo

is the green area on the CT image.

[hatrack]

39. "Granular" was the word that came to mind for some fair-sized areas

Well, at least it won't be dull . . .

[Systematic Chaos]

38. Yours was merely a more academic way of saying what I did.

I just prefer silly and/or absurdist humor. :D

[OnlinePoker]

41. What is going on with Cryosphere Today and NSIDC?

Cryosphere's sea ice image (http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/) has been stuck on 07 Jul and their Current Northern Hemisphere sea ice has dropped from a deficit of 1.6 million sq km to 1.33 msk since then. If you go to the NSIDC website (http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/), their sea ice extent has also flatlined for the last week. Is there a data lock somewhere or has the ice stabilized in the last week?

[XemaSab]

42. I'm going through withdrawals

Like, there are dead babies crawling on the ceiling. :scared:

[Systematic Chaos]

44. How did my dead babies get on your ceiling?

Sorry, my bad.

[XemaSab]

45. It looks like part of the issue is that the Beaufort Gyre has been breaking down

http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2010/07/sea-ice-extent-update-15-improving-ever-so-slightly.html

Oh, and the comments indicate that we're not the only ones jonesing for a fix. :P

[hatrack]

47. Their website noted today (7/15) that they were having server issues

:hi:

[hatrack]

46. Crysophere Today finally updating!

Looks like most of the Beaufort/Chukchi sector will be next to go, along with a chunk of the E. Siberian.

[Dead_Parrot]

48. Good, I can start drinking again

Been sober all week. :(

[Odin2005]

49. Oh shit!

Some climate blog post I read a week ago commented on how slushy the ice has become. :scared:

[XemaSab]

50. I dialed this up today at work and sat there openmouthed for 10 full minutes

I then shacka-lacka'd over to the Arctic mosaic and realized there is NOTHING solid up there.

Like, NOTHING.

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2010197.terra.4km

Shit's going DOWN up there.

[XemaSab]

51. Oh, and Patrick Lockerby has an update

http://www.science20.com/chatter_box/arctic_ice_july_2010_update_2

[hatrack]

52. Had never been there before - what a great site!

Thanks for the link!

:toast:

[XemaSab]

53. You're welcome

:toast: