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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:23 PM Original message |
UA Fairbanks Ecologist - "Permafrost Is Melting Fast All Over The Arctic . . . Methane Bubbling Up" |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. That doesn't sound so awesome. |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Quick, Phantom Power - tell me some Clean Coal stories!!! |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. We aren't clapping very hard, are we... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. What a privilege it is to be alive today. |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. . |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Actually, I'm going to step out of character for a minute. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Why are you scared? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It's a long way, still, |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. In many ways |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The path that I'm on combines the two approaches |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Much of the same |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It's important not to just know things, but to experience them. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. To experience = to transform |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I think the short answer is that I *am* attached to impermanent things. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Like Jeebus said |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I suppose, then, that I am still in favor of value-based judgements. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. No problemo |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. A nice summary |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. It's possible to love without being attached. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No, love is not possible without attachment |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. The discussion doesn't have much to do with E/E at this point |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-18-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. . |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Bible quoting |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Congratulations. nt |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Thanks, I needed that! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. You packed for New Zealand? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I've heard their immigration policy is pretty strict. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. My step-cousin's mom is a kiwi |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. I didn't know about the "compost" feedback mechanism. |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yet another positive feedback loop - heat = increased repro = more heat = even more repro . . . . |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That is the key...and why I say that we are already well past the "tipping point"... |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. We have been warned and warning that |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. A couple of astonishing videos from 2007 |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
32. We're so far past the tipping point it's not even funny |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. You're right. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. Is anybody modeling the impact of this? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Does anyone even really want to know? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Are you interested in spending time on realistic possibilities? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Been there, done that |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I'm thinking more in terms of "what will the new climate be like?" |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. The problem is that it puts our attention on the model instead of the reality |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I propose that they are *both* useful questions. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. What's wrong with living right where you are? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I don't know. That's what I'd like to predict! |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Mmmm. I see your point. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Hmm. That isn't as funny as it seemed when I wrote it. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Actually, that was pretty funny. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I hear New Zealand is nice |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Well |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. We haven't seen panic yet |
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