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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:58 PM
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Chevrolet Volt Battery Packs Will Be Manufactured by GM in the U.S.
Chevrolet Volt Battery Packs Will Be Manufactured by General Motors in the United States

• GM will establish the first lithium-ion battery pack manufacturing facility in the United States operated by a major automaker
• LG Chem has been selected to supply the lithium-ion battery cells for the Chevrolet Volt
• Advanced battery strategy strengthens GM’s capabilities to develop hybrid and electric vehicles
• GM will open a new automotive battery lab – the largest of its kind – in the United States to further strengthen design, development and testing capabilities
• A partnership with the University of Michigan has been established to develop a specialized curriculum for battery engineers


DETROIT – The Chevrolet Volt, an extended-range electric vehicle that delivers up to 40 miles 65km of gasoline- and emissions-free electric driving, will use battery packs manufactured in the United States by General Motors, Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner announced at the North American International Auto Show.

GM will establish the first lithium-ion battery pack manufacturing facility operated by a major automaker in the United States to produce the Volt’s battery pack system. It consists of lithium-ion cells that are grouped into modules, along with other key battery components.

The plant will be located in Michigan, subject to negotiations with state and local government authorities. Facility preparation will begin in early 2009, with production tooling to be installed mid-year and output starting in 2010.

“The design, development and production of advanced batteries must be a core competency for GM, and we’ve been rapidly building our capability and resources to support this direction,” Wagoner said. “This is a further demonstration of our commitment to the electrification of the automobile and to the Chevrolet Volt – a commitment that now totals more than $1 billion.”

The Volt’s lithium-ion battery cells will be...

2010.

http://www.autoincar.com/chevrolet-volt-battery-packs-will-be-manufactured-by-general-motors-in-the-united-states/


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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:00 PM
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1. This is good news all around.
It makes me want to get my credit in order so that I can buy one of these. :D
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:16 PM
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3. Any idea how much they'll be? (nt)
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:31 PM
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5. Oh, I just googled that - $40,000
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/06/19/lutz-pegs-first-generation-chevy-volt-price-tag-at-40-000/

$40,000, said Lutz back in the summer.

Hmm. That's going to be some serious heavy lifting on my credit...
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 07:22 PM
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8. Not in my immediate future that's for sure! (nt)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:10 PM
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2. Good news
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:17 PM
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4. Good for them. But somebody please convince me that GM won't turn
around in a year or two and outsource those jobs to China, claiming they will go bankrupt if they don't.....
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:03 PM
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6.  The Truth of Suffering
The Truth of Suffering

The Buddha's discovery of the solution to the problem of suffering began with the recognition that life is suffering. This is the first of the Four Noble Truths. If people examine their own experiences or look at the world around them, they will see that life is full of suffering. Suffering may be Physical or Mental.

Physical Suffering

Physical suffering takes many forms. People must have observed at one time or another, how their aged relatives suffer. Most of the aged suffer aches and pains in their joints and many find it hard to move about by themselves. With advancing age, the lderlyfind life difficult because they cannot see, hear or eat properly. The pain of disease, which strikes young and old alike, is unbearable, and the pain of death brings much grief and suffering. Even the moment of birth gives pain both to the mother and to the child that is born.

The truth is that suffering of birth, old age, sickness and death is unavoidable. Some fortunate people may now be enjoying relatively happy and carefree lives, but it is only a matter of time before they, too, will experience suffering. What is worse, this suffering must be born alone.

Mental Suffering

Beside physical suffering, there are also various forms of mental suffering. People feel sad, lonely or depressed when they lose someone they love through separation or death. They feel irritated or uncomfortable when they are forced to be company of those whom they dislike or those who are unpleasant. People also suffer when they unable to satisfy their limitless needs and wants.

Happiness in Life

When the Buddha said that there is suffering in life, he did not deny that there is happiness also. On the contrary, he spoke of many kinds of happiness such as the happiness of friendship, the happiness of family life, and so on. But all these kinds of happiness are impermanent and when one loses them, one suffers. For example, one may like a pleasant and charming person and enjoy his or her company. But when one is separated from that person, the happiness turns into suffering. One suffers because of one's attachment to pleasures that do not last.

People often remain unaware of the inevitable sufferings of life because they are distracted by temporary pleasures.

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5215/ts.html

The Four Noble Truths

The Buddha's two foremost disciples were Shari Putra and Modi Aliaiana. They started out their search for an enlightened teacher long before they met the Buddha. One day, they met an old monk whose name was Ashva Jid, who had been one of the Buddha's first disciples. He had a kind of light about him, he looked good, and so they asked him: "Well who is your teacher and what does he teach?" He told them he was a simple mendicant and that he couldn't really say much and they should go and meet the Sakyamuni Buddha themselves and ask him, but they insisted that at least he must be able to give them some epitome of the Buddha's teaching, so finally he did, and what he said was: (Speaks in Sanskrit). I repeat this in Sanskrit just for good luck over the airway, because over millennia, this has become a mantra of the Buddha teaching. You find it painted on the back of Tibetan thangas. You find it embedded on scrolls inside Buddhist stupas all throughout Asia, and what it actually says is very, very surprising. The translation is 'About all things that arise from cause, the enlightened Lord declared what those causes are, and also how they reach cessation. Such is the teaching of the Great Transcendor.' Now, this in a way, expresses the essence of the Buddha's teaching, his discovery of causation. The second of his noble truths, which is our task today to discuss, is the noble truth of causation. The Buddha, therefore, is celebrated in a root mantra of his tradition, not as a religious saviour, not as a deity, but as the planet's first discoverer of causation, a century or so before Hippocrates and many of the Greek philosophers and scientists.

Why is discovery of causation a momentous thing? Because before that, people tended to feel that their fate was controlled by a deity. Human beings felt helpless. They had to go to the priest and have the deity placated by some ritual. In a sense, they felt helpless before unknown powers. Once they discovered causation, which happened Eurasia-wide, not only in Greece, as westerners tend to think, they began to assert a certain amount of control over their lives. They began to try to analyse things in terms of how they happened, and this enabled them then to interfere with those processes of causation and to create a better outcome for themselves.

Now, when the Buddha gave his teaching, he started out with the framework of what are called 'The Four Noble Truths', although these could also be translated as 'The Four Noble Facts'. The first of them, which you've already heard about, is a recognition of the human predicament, the Buddha's statement that the unenlightened life is suffering. The second of them is a diagnosis of that unenlightened human condition, why we have suffering and what is the reason for it. The third of them is the prognosis of our human potential, how we can become, what we can become if we do free ourselves from suffering. And the fourth of them is the therapy or methodology, enabling human beings to realise his or her potential.

People have often thought that Buddhism is a very depressing religion or teaching, because they hear the first Noble Truth as being that all life is suffering, but the Buddha didn't really say that all life is suffering. He said that the unenlightened life is suffering. As the Dali Llama says: "To tell people that all life is suffering when they are simply doomed to suffer, would be like going 'Nyah, nyah,' to those beings, like someone who is in prison and has no way to get out and you just go and wave, wave at them and say: 'Ha, ha, you'll never get out." What the Buddha actually said was that the unenlightened life is suffering, and therefore implying and directly stating that the enlightened life is bliss, happiness, Nirvana.

The most important of the Four Noble Truths, of course, is the Third Noble Truth, the Buddha's discovery that there is such a thing as complete freedom from suffering, a very unusual thing for people to claim on this Earth. Most teachings, either religious or scientific, tell people that they are doomed to a certain type of suffering. Perhaps they can have pie in the sky after death, in Heaven, if they believe in such and such a saviour, but mainly it is suffering until they are extinguished, let's say, in death, whereas the Buddha claimed that it is possible for living beings and especially in, from their human embodiment, to become completely understanding of their own reality, and through that understanding to become completely free of suffering. Along with the misunderstanding that the Buddha was a pessimist and a depressed person who said that everything is suffering, goes the idea that therefore, Buddhism could only have been popular in Asia, where people were depressed because Asia was underdeveloped or something, whereas the truth of the matter was that in the Buddha's time, India was by far more wealthy than Greece or any other part of Europe, and that for a millennium or so, it was in fact more wealthy than the West, and therefore Indian people were more jolly, less depressed actually, and therefore more open to a teaching of happiness, actually.

Buddhism is the art of happiness and the concept of Buddhism as the art of happiness is not just some sort of contemporary Buddhist pap. So now with that misunderstanding out of the way, let's look at the way in which we do become free of suffering, which is namely by understanding the cause of suffering, the Second Noble Truth, and getting rid of it. The Second Noble Truth might be thought, therefore, as something very complicated, but really it is very simple. It is the truth of ignorance, really. What the Buddha discovered was that the reason that beings suffer is that they do not know their own real condition. They think that reality is one way, when actually, it is another, and the key element of that distorted understanding and perception of reality is that each of us perceives ourselves to be the centre of our reality. Each of us thinks that we are some sort of fixed, independent, real entity. When we hear Descartes say: "Ah ha, the one thing I can be sure of, is I think, therefore I am," and that, that effect that 'I am' is the one indubitable thing in the universe. The Buddha said that is a perfect expression of ignorance, of misknowledge, as he would put it, a wrong knowing of the nature of the world.

That wrong knowing of the nature of the world puts us in an impossible situation. What is the impossible situation? Well, if I'm the one really true thing and I'm the most real thing in the world, that makes me the most important thing in the world to me. It will be universally recognised that not a single other person in the world will agree with me on that point, that they believe they are the most important things in the world. The world itself is a giant bunch of rocks and dust, the material world anyway, and it doesn't pay that much attention to me as some sort of embodiment, and time doesn't pay much attention to me as a temporary, ephemeral embodiment or mind and body complex, and therefore the world in a way is against the reality that I perceive to be what is most important, so therefore I am in conflict with the world all the time, from my basic perception of things, and being in conflict with the world, which includes other beings, which includes inanimate things, I am going to lose that conflict always.

If you think you're the greatest, the most important, the most real and the world disagrees, you are going to lose that argument with the world, you will die, you will get sick, you will not prevail, people will not like you, people will not do what you want, and you will be forced to do what they want and so on, and therefore you will suffer; and so that's really very simple, and in fact, if it was true, the way we habitually perceive ourselves that we are the most important things, we are the real things here in the world, that other things are less real than us, then we would be doomed to eternal suffering, in fact. It would be logical that we would conjure up an image of some being who is more important than the world, as many of the world's religions do, and somehow feel that that being will take care of us. It sort of fits with our feeling of ourselves being more important, then we kind of can collapse that into this imaginary being that is more important, and by being saved by that being, then we are somehow going to be OK some other time, but Buddha did not settle for such a solution, because he didn't consider it realistic. Instead, he investigated the nature of himself, he investigated whether it really was true that he could not doubt about his own real existence, and what he discovered was that he very much could doubt how real was his existence. He could look for himself as being there in that independent, self-sufficient way that he habitually was feeling, as we habitually feel, and when he did so with great concentration, with great investigation, with scientific exploration, thought experiments and so on, that sense of self that he held, dissolved and disappeared, and he was liberated from that sense of separated self.

Once liberated from that sense of separated self, did not mean that he became non-existent, simply, that he, sort of he and the world were obliterated in some sort of happy annihilation. Not at all. But it meant that he now began to perceive himself as part of the world, as one sort of relational element in the world, not more important than the world, not in conflict with the world, sometimes perhaps under some stress, but capable of harmony with the world, harmony with other beings, harmony with the inanimate elements in the world.

That discovery, apparently, I know it sounds a little incredible, but that discovery of something not just simple oneness and not just simple difference, but a kind of complex, relative difference within ultimate oneness, that discovery gave him the supreme bliss, the total cessation of suffering, and that's why that wonderful smile is on the face of the Buddha as we see in all of his representations in art and in history and in legend. The happy Buddha comes from that realisation, the overcoming of the state of stress and conflict, of being in competition, let's say, with the universe.

So that, therefore, really is the truth of causation, that once we perceive ourselves as a separate, real being and that we come into disagreement with the universe, when we are in disagreement with the universe, we fight with the universe. When we fight with the universe, we lose. The only way we can get out of that is not just by believing that we are one with the world or something, or going against our habitual perception of ourselves as separate from the world, but it is by investigating our habitual perception, analysing it, and experiencing its falsity, which we can empirically do. The Buddha assured us that over the centuries, many millions of Buddhists also tried this methodology and also assured us that it worked to some degree or another, and thereby achieved some degree or another of freedom from suffering.

Now, the last thing I want to say is that the fact that this is called 'The Noble Truth of Causation, the Noble Truth of Suffering,' et cetera, means that the Buddha in telling us this is aware that this is not true for people who are not yet noble. In his meaning of the world 'noble'. That is to say, for people who are ordinary, that is to say ordinary, egocentric persons, it isn't true that I am only a relative entity in the world and not an absolute independent, self-sufficient, self-centred being. To me, that's not true. It's also not true that everything about my life is suffering, even though I'm unenlightened. When I have some relief from some immediate pain, when I have some pleasure, I feel that I am happy, so that's why he called it 'Noble Truth'.

Once I realise, though, the higher happiness of being truly relational with the universe, of realising other beings as in some way inseparable from myself, of liberating thereby my true feeling of compassion and love for those beings, and a feeling of friendliness from those beings, because no longer feeling so threatened by them, then I become really happy in a new way, in an inner dependent, an inner directed way, not into some, depending on some temporarily pleasant stimulants; and at that time, I perceive my old way of being as, even when I was having temporary pleasure, I perceived that as being unhappy, actually, and I realised that is was a suffering..

They say that for the ordinary person, the state of suffering is like when you have a grain of sand on the palm of your hand. You don't really know that it's suffering, because it doesn't really bother you on the palm of your hand, but they say that when you become a noble person and you have a higher sensitivity and sense of reality to the world, what was formerly pleasure is like a grain of sand in your eye, your sensitivity is so much greater, it bothers you so much more, and that's when you become aware of the truth of that Noble Truth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/buddhism/beliefs/fournobletruths_prog2.html


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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 06:27 PM
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7. Well, that's a lovely post. But I am at a loss as to how it relates to either the
OP or my post.........
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:54 PM
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9. And "recycled" by third world child labor in Asia.
Wunderbar!

I feel wonderful about that. I think I'll go out and buy a giant pig pick up truck and talk all about the "solar future," while I dump dangerous fossil fuels all over the world while driving around to "NO NUKES" concerts with dumb drugged out rock stars even more illiterate about energy than I am.

In general one can always look to a "renewables will save us" airhead for car CULTure apologetics.

There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. A. "Green." Car.

Cars are toxic.

Of course, you would need to know something about science to understand that batteries are also not particularly clean, but that would involve two things missing in the OP: Education and ethics.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:07 AM
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10. And the source of lithium? Bolivia.
I expect probably when ever the next repuke is installed as prezzz, there will be a nice little coup in Bolivia.
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