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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:10 PM
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Storing the Breeze: New (NaS) Battery Might Make Wind Power More Reliable
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=storing-the-breeze-new-battery-might-make-wind-power-reliable

Winter winds howl off the Dakota prairie through Minnesota, turning the 1,100 megawatts worth of wind turbines in Xcel Energy's system in that state. By 2020, the utility expects to more than triple that amount in a bid to avoid more polluting energy sources. But the wind doesn't always blow and, even worse, it often blows strongest when people aren't using much electricity, like late at night.

So Xcel Energy, Inc., has become one of the first utilities in the U.S. to install a giant battery system in an attempt to store some of that wind power for later. "Energy storage might help us get to the point where we can integrate wind better," says Frank Novachek, director of corporate planning for the Minneapolis-based utility with customers in Colorado, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, the Dakotas, Oklahoma, Texas and Wisconsin. "The overall cost of electricity might be lower by using energy storage."

The energy storage in question—a series of sodium–sulfur batteries from Japan's NGK Insulators, Ltd.—can store roughly seven megawatt-hours of power, meaning the 20 batteries are capable of delivering roughly one megawatt of electricity almost instantaneously, enough to power 500 average American homes for seven hours. "Over 100 megawatts of this technology deployed throughout the world," Novachek says. The batteries "store wind at night and they contract with their utility to put out a straight line output from that wind farm every day."

That removes one of the big hurdles to even broader adoption of wind power: so-called intermittency. In other words, the wind doesn't always blow when you want it to, a problem Texas faced earlier this year when a drop in wind generation forced cuts in electricity delivery. But with battery backup, the 11-megawatt wind farm outside Luverne, Minn., can deliver a set amount of electricity at all times, making it more reliable or, in industry terms, base-load generation. Plus, the battery effectively doubles the wind farm's output at any given moment—both the megawatt being produced by the wind farm itself (that would otherwise have gone to charging the battery) and the megawatt delivered by the battery.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:31 PM
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1. Ok now, the wind turbines put out 60 Hz AC. Batteries put out DC
What is the method of turning the battery DC into 60 Hz AC?
Motor generators? Inverters?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:55 PM
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7. solid state inverters pretty much exclusively now
Some of the newer higher performance portable generators for back up power use dc alternators to make the current then they use an inverter to change to AC. It allows them to run the engine at the speed needed only to produce the power needed and still have 60 cycles at the electrical plugs, This is done for fuel economy at lower than full loads which is almost always the case.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:44 PM
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2. Does anybody else read that as one dollar per 7 watt-hours?
As such things go, that doesn't seem awful. These things run really hot, right?
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:19 PM
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3. How can you calculate the price per watthour without...
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 09:20 PM by kristopher
How can you calculate the price per watthour without knowing the lifetime production of the battery and market value of the electricity? The cost/lifetime production would set the lower limit and the market value would set the upper limit.

The most expensive electricity is bought on the spot market or contracted as reactive power. These batteries are a niche product at this time.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:56 AM
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4. Yes, I was thinking in terms of price per watt-hour installed.
I'm also curious about the environmental impact over the lifecycle of these things.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:33 AM
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5. That's a good question.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 11:35 AM by kristopher
I don't know. As far as price per watthour installed, I still don't understand. Perhaps you could share your math...
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:52 AM
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6. I just re-read the article, and I goofed the math...
They quote $3 million per megawatt, plus "millions more," whatever that means. So, it's a lot more than my first take, and given the ambiguity of "millions more," probably not even possible to make a good guess.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:02 PM
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8. Hittin' the ol' eggnog a bit early are we?
:evilgrin:
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:05 PM
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9. If only. I'm sleep-deprived. My wife is recovering from neurosurgery...
things have been... unusual. Plus, I'm trying to finalize a big project at work and make the money run out at the same time the work is done. Plus, it's cephalopodmas.

Plus, sometimes I just fuck shit up, even without a good excuse.

:evilgrin:
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