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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:51 PM
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Congress considers the steel penny
I still support the proposal to quit making pennies altogether.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Further evidence that times are tough: It now costs more than a penny to make a penny. And the cost of a nickel is more than 7 1/2 cents.

Surging prices for copper, zinc and nickel have some in Congress trying to bring back the steel-made pennies of World War II, and maybe using steel for nickels, as well.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/07/news/economy/steel_pennies.ap/index.htm

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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:53 PM
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1. The people who sell us the zinc and nickel will never allow it.
It may cost the tax-payer, but someone is making money.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:54 PM
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2. Let's just stop making money already
let's get that Star Trek style economy going!
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:58 PM
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3. Oh Sorry - I Read This Wrong I Thought You Meant Congress Considers Stealing Our Pennies......nt
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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4. Ration tokens
I have some of those WWII? tokens somewhere in my junk. Do you think I should find them just incase?:shrug:
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:01 PM
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5. I think there are already enough pennies in the world

Why don't they just have a penny drive, encourage everyone to start using their loose chance and emptying the penny banks. Everyone is going to start doing it soon anyhow, just to afford gas.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:18 PM
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6. It would be better to just do away with the penny entirely. NT
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:44 PM
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7. Eliminate the penny
n/t
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:49 PM
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8. Nah, devalue the currency 5:1
A penny is now worth a nickel, nickels become quarters, dimes become half dollars, the quarter is the new dollar - problem solved.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:57 PM
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16. Semiotics to the rescue
Thus we solve all our problems by defining them out of existence. You may qualify for a high-paying job in the Bush administration.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:05 AM
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18. You could use a semiotic epistemology to plug your nickels...
Edited on Thu May-08-08 11:06 AM by GliderGuider
I'm trying too hard, aren't I?
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gObama08 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:55 PM
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9. Agreed.
Drop it. Worthless.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:20 PM
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10. Maybe Paul Ehlrich was right after all?
Edited on Wed May-07-08 02:25 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
What would the graph on this page look like extended to 2008?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager

edit - here's some data but I'm not sure what the inflation adjustment would be

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/copper/mcs-2008-coppe.pdf
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:20 PM
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11. Wouldn't the gold dollar be a better idea?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:25 PM
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12. You couldn't see it without a magnifying glass.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:32 PM
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13. Maybe a 125 millibarrel coin?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:54 PM
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14. I like it. We could call it the "petro-dollar!"
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:02 PM
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15. My mistake --- 8 millibarrels (at ~$125/barrel) = $1.00
Brother, can you spare a microBarrel?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:00 PM
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20. Plastic coins -- maybe not that far off? nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 10:50 AM
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17. There were steel nickels during WWII as well...
they were called war nickels I have a few of them at home.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:56 PM
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19. Actually, silver and manganese replaced nickel.
From mid-1942 to 1945, so-called "Wartime" composition nickels were created. These coins are 56% copper, 35% silver and 9% manganese. The only other U.S. coins to use manganese are the Sacagawea and presidential dollars. These coins are usually a bit darker than regular nickels, said to be due to their manganese content (as was true of many British coins minted from 1920 through 1947). However, carefully-protected proof sets of these coins are difficult to tell from the standard alloy. A more likely reason for the darker appearance of the wartime coin was due to exposure to sulfur during circulation, which invariably gave the coins a mild and somewhat distinctive dark silver tarnish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_(United_States_coin)

I found a couple of these in my change this year. I still see a few of these every now and then.
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