Anyone here live near Mt. Shasta in California? I need a new pictures of it.

[Up2Late]

I took a few beautiful pictures of Mt. Shasta back about this time of year in March 1985, on my way back from a trip up the coast to Oregon. I took the picture out the window of my friend's VW Van as we drove on I-5 and, back then, I remember thinking how beautiful it was with it's snow cap and thinking that it would probably always be like that, but from what I see on Google Maps/Earth, I think it may have changed a lot since then.

I'm sure most of you have heard of the melting of Mt. Kilimanjaro in Africa, and how the "Snows of Kilimanjaro" are almost gone, well I'd like to compare my 1985 pictures of Mt. Shasta to what it looks like now, and a picture, taken from I-5 on a clear morning would help me do that to see how "Global Warming" is effecting one of our mountains here in the United States.

Here's the idea, have someone else drive, but traveling South from Yreka, California, on a clear, cloudless morning (say between 10:00am to 12:00pm), take 2 to 6 pictures of Mt. Shasta as it breaks into clear view and then send it to me either by email or posting it somewhere on-line. Ineed this done this month (March 2008), so that the lighting is similar and the comparison is a good one (March 1985 to March 2008).

Extra Credit if you can get a good clear shot of Mt. McLoughlin from I-5 near Medford Oregon, I have a shot of that one too of, what I'm guessing now, is a formerly Snow-covered mountain. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing the snow is gone from it too, from what I see on Google Maps/Earth.

[stellanoir]

1. I have a gorgeous one from 1986.

But it has one of those curious lenticular clouds which are alleged to be cloaking devices for alien craft on the top of the mountain.

Who knows. . .?

I have no photobucket account either.

I doubt it's what you are looking for but it's a totally cool shot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_Clouds

[Up2Late]

4. Yes, it was beautiful back then, but I need something to show how it's changed.

But that's not to say that what you have is not important, It might be helpful having photos from a few different photographers taken back in the 1980's, so take care of that photo, I may ask for a copy later if I run into some hard-core Global Warming deniers.

[melody]

2. Don't know if this will help, but ...

Mt. Shasta is one of my favorite places in the world.

There's a Shasta cam with updated images:

http://www.shastacam.com/

There's also this one:
http://www.snowcrest.net/camera/

[Up2Late]

3. Yeah that, and I think all of the web-cams I've seen, are from the wrong direction...

...(the south, I think). No, I really need a photo taken from the west, looking east to have a good comparison.

But it does show what I had suspected. See all those dark ridges? Those were not there back in 1985, those ridges were all covered in snow and probably those valleys were most likely filled with ice, but it's hard to say for sure, because it's a different angle.

[XemaSab]

5. I was up there last week

Shasta is a snow covered MONSTER right now.

I doubt you would see much melt at this time.

Last summer though there was VERY little ice left on it, even from the north face. :(

[Up2Late]

6. Did it look like this?

That's the point? I don't know what it looks like right now, but I would like to see where the snow line is and the size of the snow pack to compare the two.



(I can send you the link to a slightly bigger version by PM, I don't want to post it here for privacy reasons)

<http://www.flickr.com/>

I also don't want to be accused of showing a picture from two different times of year, and if I remember correctly, we were in the middle of a long drought in California in 1985, or at least we had a drought in Southern California that year, so I'd really like to see how a March 2008 picture compares to March 1985.

[XemaSab]

7. The snow was pretty low

That's all I can say. :shrug:

[Delphinus]

11. Oh, my

what a beautiful picture! I saw it and this smile just came ove my face - couldn't help it!

Thank you for sharing!! :)

[Up2Late]

12. Thanks, it was even better in person and like someone here said...

...as you are driving South from Oregon on I-5, that view just kind of appears out of nowhere from behind a hill.

I hope it still looks like that now, but I kind of doubt it, which is really sad.

[Up2Late]

8. Here's the other mountain I'd like to see a good picture of, Mt. McLoughlin, Oregon

<http://flickr.com/>

Mt. McLoughlin, Oregon. This photo was also taken from the back window my friend's VW Van, looking North-east from I-5 on the same trip (same day too).

I'm not sure if this view is from Oregon or California. I'm almost afraid to see what this volcano looks like now, I don't think this one has any permanent ice cap any longer, as it's just under 9500 feet high.

(When I saw this one, back then, I thought, sort of looked like a Zit about to pop)

[fed-up]

9. Whitney Glacier on Mt. Shasta is growing because of Global Climate Change

the view of Shasta from I-5 is AWESOME, as it just seems to spring out of thin air. Haven't been north of it in a few years, but sometimes I get to see a teeny tiny bit of the tip if I cross the valley from Chico

I googled
Mt. Shasta Global Warming and found these articles, beware if you read any from our local weatherman who confuses global warming with global climate change

you might also want to try googling Mt Shasta I-5 and Mount Shasta I-5

http://dwb.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14317368p-15234887c.html
By David Whitney -- Bee Washington Bureau
Published 1:43 am PDT
Monday, September 04,2006
A growing glacier
Mount Shasta bucks global trend, and researchers cite warming phenomena

WASHINGTON -- Whitney Glacier on Mount Shasta is growing, and scientists think global warming in Northern California is the reason.

This is not the way global warming works in most parts of the world.

In the Arctic and the Antarctic, and all along the West Coast north of the California border, temperatures are rising and glaciers are melting. Nisqually Glacier on Mount Rainier on the northern end of the Cascades, for example, has retreated by nearly a mile in the past century and continues to shrink.

But Whitney Glacier, on the southern end of the Cascades? "It's still growing," said Slawek Tulaczyk, a glaciologist at the University of California, Santa Cruz.

According to an article last summer in California Wild, a journal of the California Academy of Sciences, Whitney Glacier is the only ice river in the world that is larger today than in 1890.

Tulaczyk and his team, who began studying the glacier in 2002 and now have expanded their work to the high peaks of the Sierra Nevada, link the advancing frozen mass to the unique way California is being affected by global warming.

While in the short term it means more snow, their findings also contain a dire forecast: High-altitude snowpack, a steady source of water for the state as the snow melts during the summer, is probably doomed.

Tulaczyk said he and his team reviewed records dating back five decades collected from monitoring stations that measure the snowpack and its moisture content.

By comparing those statistics against temperature trends, certain conclusions can be drawn. A key conclusion is that global warming is not just about rising temperatures, but about the capacity of warmer air to carry moisture.

As California's temperature rose by 1 degree Celsius over the past half-century, Tulaczyk said, the snowpack has moved higher up in the mountains. But because warmer air in the winter can carry more water, the amount of snow falling at the high peaks has grown.

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pics here also

http://cbs13.com/seenon/Mount.Shasta.Global.2.485725.html

Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow
by John Iander

MOUNT SHASTA (CBS13) ? The debate over global warming has taken a pretty odd twist in Northern California. Up on Mount Shasta, the glaciers are not behaving like you'd expect.

Big mountains often produce their own weather patterns. Mount Shasta, at 14,162 feet seems to have a mind of its own these days. Shasta has seven glaciers. The biggest is the one on the middle, Whitney Glacier. What has surprised scientists about the glacier is that if the theories about global warming are true, the glacier ought to be shrinking, but it's not.

"Unlike most areas around the world, these glaciers are advancing, they are growing. Thirty percent in the last fifty years," says scientist Erik White.

White and mountain climber Chris Carr are Shasta experts.

"Every year it's a little bit different. But the glacier changes dramatically, year to year," says Carr.

So why are the glaciers larger today than they were a century or more ago?

"Mount Shasta is right at the very northern end of areas influenced by El Nino and were at the southern end of areas affected by La Nina. So between the two we get to see the benefits of that which means more snow and rain in this area," says White.

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/NEWS/711020331

[Up2Late]

10. Wow, that is weird, and good idea about Google(ing) "Mt Shasta" and I-5...

...that did bring up a lot of pictures like mine, but almost none of them had any date info, so who knows when they were taken?

Also, that report about the Whitney Glacier was good news, but what about the other SIX glaciers? Did you notice they didn't report what was happening to the other SIX Mt. Shasta Glaciers? I hate to be so cynical, but that's usually how the MSM work, even when they're local. I bet the other six are already shrinking?