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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:47 PM
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Letter to the Editor: In response to a comparison of gays to cannibals.
While browsing in today's local paper... I came across:

ORIGINAL LETTER TO EDITOR:
"I wish to complain that cannibals do not get the same rights as others. I was born a cannibal, and my whole life, I have only eaten human flesh. Because of the laws in this country, I am not allowed to kill anyone to eat. I am starving because of this, and I feel I should have just as much right as anyone else to eat.

Ok, the truth is that I am not a cannibal and have never killed anyone. I just wrote this story to show how ridiculous gay marriage rights activists sound. The fact is that homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals have and that is that we can all marry people of the opposite gender. People can love and care for othres without having to marry them. Marriage just allows us to have sex with others and be pleasing in God's eyes doing it.

Same gender sex is digusting and as degrading as cannibalism and should not be rewarded by the government. Just like cannablism, homosexuality is a bad choice."
- James Patrick, South Glens Falls


My response ( I'll leave this up here for your edits, suggestions, opinions, etc):

I was compelled to write a response to Mr. James Patrick of South Glens Falls, whose letter was published in Tuesday’s Post Star. He illustrates his apparent hatred of the homosexual lifestyle with a colourful story about cannibalism. I fail to recognize this ludicrous comparison between a loving couple and a savage act of destruction of human life as valid. They are both lifestyle choices, yes, but their effects are radically different. In a society that has become increasingly cold, we should welcome any couples dedicated to providing a nurturing and caring environment.

If we are going to compare homosexuality to cannibalism as Mr. Patrick has done, why are we not comparing the scores of marriages gone awry or the destruction of family done by heterosexuals as well? To me, Mr. Patrick’s argument is senseless; he says that he personally feels homosexual sex is “disgusting”… what if I should think the opposite? Why would the government reward the heterosexual with the institution of marriage if I personally found it disgusting?

Obviously, Mr. Patrick’s religious morality dictates his opinion on same-gender sex, but this religious morality should not dictate state or national law. If we allow fundamentalists to influence our laws regarding the union of two people, then we are furthering the intrusion of church and state. This continuing oppression of a group of people (homosexuals) takes our country backward. Once, our laws opposed to interracial marriage. Once, our laws opposed minorities and women. With time, these problems have vanished and instead we have progressed forward. It is time now to grant these same rights to homosexuals. We as a society should not be so quick to judge, but more in tune with each other.

Being straight and raised Christian has taught me something Mr. Patrick has yet to learn. Though the Bible expresses a view on homosexuality, Christians also believe our god is a selfless god, who looks over the defenseless and oppressed. Like the Jews were oppressed, so are the people of the GLBT community. Like the poor, the leper, the beggar, and the blind man… they are oppressed by those opposed to change. If God is indeed the merciful god she is believed to be, she is looking down onto our current fundamentalists and moralists, shaking her head in astonishment at the lack of compassion they display for their fellow man.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:52 PM
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1. Where is this guy and what does he do? Most amusingly,
Does he go good with raspberry vinaigrette? :evilgrin:

Does he only do one type of act (guess...) with his wife and nobody else?

Does he not enjoy what he's doing?

And if God and parents tell their kids that sex is dirty and sinful, how can this luzer now turn around and say that God enjoys WATCHING them do it?!?!?! Sorry for the boldface, this guy is a grade A nitwit...
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:52 PM
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2. Very well-expressed.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:53 PM
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3. Good responce...
I would have just said "eat me".

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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:42 PM
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14. haha
Ronny, you're too funny!
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:53 PM
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4. a good reply -- a couple of things
Homosexuality isn't a lifestyle and it isn't a choice. It's an orientation and it is not chosen.

The Bible doesn't say anything about gay marriage. When it talks about homosexual acts it does so in the context of gang rape, prostitution, idol worship. It says nothing about sex in the context of marriage. Moreover it talks about marriage among one man and several wives. . . . oh, there is no end to the problems I have with trying to legislate marriage from out of the bible.

So you see, I disagree with a couple of the things you wrote but I think all-in-all it's a good response. If you edit it at all, perhaps you can emphasize once more the difference between cannibalism - an act of murder (probably) and destruction - and gay marriage -- an act of commitment and love, just like het. marriage.

UGH: one more thing: it is so blasted offensive to be compared to a cannibal! Not as bad as being called a child molester, though, and I'm sure that's not far off in Mr. Patrick's clever thoughts. :eyes:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:25 PM
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6. what kind of newspaper wouLd print that?
seriousLy. and i think bertha gave pointed (and wise) edits.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:40 PM
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11. Right
I did not really mean to use choices there. Whoops
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:00 PM
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5. Excuse me but Homosexuality is not a choice.
I applaud your efforts, but that is just plain wrong!.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:30 PM
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8. I agree! Homosexuality is not a choice!
But even if it was....I would still support same-sex marriage. This social worker at heart wants to see people in happy, supportive domestic unions. Enjoy!
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:42 PM
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13. agreed
It is not a choice. I worded it incorrectly.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:41 PM
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12. Gahhh
I'm sorry, really did not mean for it to come out that way!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:28 PM
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7. great job Maggie
No translation needed. ;-)
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:02 PM
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9. "They are both lifestyle choices"
Wrong, on both counts - and you also fell into the trap laid by the first author, by putting those two words in the same breath.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:39 PM
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10. Perhaps I should omit choices from that
Eeek.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:45 PM
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15. FOLLOW UP
Didn't mean to word it as a choice. I know it is not a choice to be gay, but it came out wrong. I've always believed it is not something you can choose to be, it just is. Sorry to all involved :hug: !
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:48 PM
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16. Good letter...
A ton of people mentioned the lifestyle choice thing so I will not belabor that.

Even as a straight guy with two kids and the wife and the house and all that, I just do not get the hate.

Just because I am not attracted to other men I do not feel the overwhelming need to bash people that are.

I don't feel the need to insult lesbians.

This is the part I never understood.

I just do not get it.

What the heck is so horribly frightening about homosexuality for these people?

Feeling so frustrated and confused.

_
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:31 PM
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17. LPFF, you never cease to amaze me
with your wit and intelligence. WillPitt, watch your back!

:hug:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:38 PM
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18. What do you mean by...
"They are both lifestyle choices?"

I am looking for clarity before I respond. :)
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:43 PM
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19. mistake
see above

i was re-editing that sentence and life choices in there because originally it said something like "cannibalism is a lifestyle choice"

that's what i get for writing letters to the editor at 8:30 in the morning. bah.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:46 PM
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20. READ FIRST: EDITED LETTER
I was compelled to write a response to Mr. James Patrick of South Glens Falls, whose letter was published in Tuesday’s Post Star. He illustrates his apparent hatred of the homosexual lifestyle with a colourful story about cannibalism. I fail to recognize this ludicrous comparison between a loving couple and a savage act of destruction of human life as valid. They are both "lifestyles", yes, but their effects are radically different. Being gay isn't a choice, cannabalism is. One would acquire the taste for human flesh. People don't acquire their homosexuality. They're born with it. In a society that has become increasingly cold, we should welcome any couples dedicated to providing a nurturing and caring environment.

If we are going to compare homosexuality to cannibalism as Mr. Patrick has done, why are we not comparing the scores of marriages gone awry or the destruction of family done by heterosexuals as well? To me, Mr. Patrick’s argument is senseless; he says that he personally feels homosexual sex is “disgusting”… what if I should think the opposite? Why would the government reward the heterosexual with the institution of marriage if I personally found it disgusting?

Obviously, Mr. Patrick’s religious morality dictates his opinion on same-gender sex, but this religious morality should not dictate state or national law. If we allow fundamentalists to influence our laws regarding the union of two people, then we are furthering the intrusion of church and state. This continuing oppression of a group of people (homosexuals) takes our country backward. Once, our laws opposed to interracial marriage. Once, our laws opposed minorities and women. With time, these problems have vanished and instead we have progressed forward. It is time now to grant these same rights to homosexuals. We as a society should not be so quick to judge, but more in tune with each other.

Being straight and raised Christian has taught me something Mr. Patrick has yet to learn. Though the Bible expresses a view on perverted homosexuality, it doesn't say anything about regular loving relationships between same sex couples. Christians believe our god is a selfless god, who looks over the defenseless and oppressed. Like the Jews were oppressed, so are the people of the GLBT community. Like the poor, the leper, the beggar, and the blind man… they are oppressed by those opposed to change. If God is indeed the merciful god she is believed to be, she is looking down onto our current fundamentalists and moralists, shaking her head in astonishment at the lack of compassion they display for their fellow man.


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