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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:07 PM
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Men - how do you stack up?
Esquire has a list of 75 things that every man should master. How many can you claim?

http://www.esquire.com/features/essential-skills-0508

The 75 Skills Every Man Should Master

68. Find his way out of the woods if lost. Note your landmarks -- mountains, power lines, the sound of a highway. Look for the sun: It sits in the south; it moves west. Gauge your direction every few minutes. If you're completely stuck, look for a small creek and follow it downstream. Water flows toward larger bodies of water, where people live.

56. Create a play-list in which ten seemingly random songs provide a secret message to one person.

54. Break up a fight. Work in pairs if possible. Don't get between people initially. Use the back of the collar, pull and urge the person downward. If you can't get him down, work for distance.

43. Install: a disposal, an electronic thermostat, or a lighting fixture without asking for help. Just turn off the damned main.

44. Ask for help.

Guys who refuse to ask for help are the most cursed men of all. The stubborn, the self-possessed, and the distant. The hell with them.

36. Make three different bets at a craps table. Play the smallest and most poorly labeled areas, the bets where it's visually evident the casino doesn't want you to go. Simply play the pass line; once the point is set, play full odds (this is the only really good bet on the table); and when you want a little more action, tell the crew you want to lay the 4 and the 10 for the minimum bet.

34. Dress a wound. First, stop the bleeding. Apply pressure using a gauze pad. Stay with the pressure. If you can't stop the bleeding, forget the next step, just get to a hospital. Once the bleeding stops, clean the wound. Use water or saline solution; a little soap is good, too. If you can't get the wound clean, then forget the next step, just get to a hospital. Finally, dress the wound. For a laceration, push the edges together and apply a butterfly bandage. For avulsions, where the skin is punctured and pulled back like a trapdoor, push the skin back and use a butterfly. Slather the area in antibacterial ointment. Cover the wound with a gauze pad taped into place. Change that dressing every 12 hours, checking carefully for signs of infection. Better yet, get to a hospital.

27. Play gin with an old guy. Old men will try to crush you. They'll drown you in meaningless chatter, tell stories about when they were kids this or in Korea that. Or they'll retreat into a taciturn posture designed to get you to do the talking. They'll note your strategies without mentioning them, keep the stakes at a level they can control, and change up their pace of play just to get you stumbling. You have to do this -- play their game, be it dominoes or cribbage or chess. They may have been playing for decades. You take a beating as a means of absorbing the lessons they've learned without taking a lesson. But don't be afraid to take them down. They can handle it.

10. Buy a suit.

Avoid bargains. Know your likes, your dislikes, and what you need it for (work, funerals, court). Squeeze the fabric -- if it bounces back with little or no sign of wrinkling, that means it's good, sturdy material. And tug the buttons gently. If they feel loose or wobbly, that means they're probably coming off sooner rather than later. The jacket's shoulder pads are supposed to square with your shoulders; if they droop off or leave dents in the cloth, the jacket's too big. The jacket sleeves should never meet the wrist any lower than the base of the thumb -- if they do, ask to go down a size. Always get fitted.

7. Cook meat somewhere other than the grill.

Buy The Way to Cook, by Julia Child. Try roasting. Braising. Broiling. Slow-cooking. Pan searing. Think ragouts, fricassees, stews. All of this will force you to understand the functionality of different cuts. In the end, grilling will be a choice rather than a chore, and your Weber will become a tool rather than a piece of weekend entertainment.















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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:08 PM
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1. Why just for men?
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:08 PM
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2. I don't know. Ask Esqiure.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:09 PM
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3. "Buy a suit" is the most amazing. How hard is it? nt
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:12 PM
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4. I wondered about that myself. I didn't realize there was anything to it.
Especially since those men's stores will take your measurements, make the alterations (for free, too, if I'm not mistaken) and voila! it's all over.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:20 PM
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7. SO true. I've started buying all my pants in men's departments.
They're better made, more likely to have natural materials , sizes that mean something and FAR better assistance. Oh yeah, alterations are nice, too!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 02:56 PM
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37. Harder than you think
GO to the criminal court one day and you will see lots of guys in suits they just bought. Too big, too small, too flashy.

A good fitting suit is a product of knowing what to buy and how to get it tailored.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:30 PM
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43. Women's clothes don't fit because they are not made to be tailored. nt
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 06:09 PM
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48. +1
My father taught me how buy and wear a suit.

He was a salesman and owner for 20+ years. He considers suits be an artform.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:22 PM
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33. Because Esquire is a magazine for men? n/t
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 03:23 PM
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39. most of those seem useful skills for men or women
Some of them, though, seem pretty pointless for most people.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:30 PM
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44. That's exactly right. nt
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:16 PM
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5. I don't know how I stack up.
And I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:16 PM
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6. 44. Ask for help. 43. Don't ask for help. even though the author's name is Tom, I doubt he's a man.
Who the Hell cares about learning to tie a bow tie?
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:43 AM
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62. If this is a man, he was raised by women.
Nothing in there about several masculine arts - like how to use a sharp knife, a file, or a saw. Know how to hold your liquor, or say no gracefully. Ditto for talking to a cop. Learn how to use a combination wrench, a ball-peen hammer, and penetrating oil.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:20 PM
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8. All except three
10. Buy a suit-never owned one and never will.

16. Tie a bow tie-Why?

46. Tell a woman's dress size- there is no logic in womens clothing sizes.

Beef about #55 Point North. The advice about using a watch doesn't work with digital watches. But I have a pretty good sense of which is north and where I am in relation to everything else.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:23 PM
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9. You are so right about the women's dress size thing. There is absolutely
no rhyme or reason to women's sizes, and attempting to guess is usually fraught with danger for most men.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:27 PM
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11. There are certain questions a woman can ask of a man
Edited on Tue May-11-10 12:27 PM by hobbit709
That there no truly safe answers. All you can do is give an answer that has the least repercussions.
:rofl:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:30 PM
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12. Um...does this post make me look fat?
:D
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:54 PM
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23. Yes.
Wait. What? Oh, no, I thought you said "Can we get a scratching post for the CAT!"
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:02 PM
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54. while I have some idea of women's dress sizes
why in hell do I "have" to know this?

Am I supposed to be guessing and telling a woman my guess? That's a good way to get your @$$ kicked, IMO.

And I would NEVER presume to try to buy a woman clothes. Generally, I'd think they'd want to pick out their own.

I can't really imagine a practical purpose in being able to correctly guess a woman's dress size.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 06:19 PM
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49. ALL women's clothing sizes are impossible for us to understand.
What the hell is 'petite'?
:eyes:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:25 PM
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10. Tie a bow tie?
Umm, no.

The last guy who could pull that off was Paul Simon. The typical Esquire reader is a pretentious little douche, so he will look less like Harry Truman and more like someone who is asking to be stuffed into a locker.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:42 PM
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18. I know - how about just a regular tie?
I can do that no problem.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:49 PM
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20. I can't do either.
But it's not that hard to find someone to do it for me because...

44. Ask for help.
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:48 PM
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58. I gave up Esquire some time ago, but it's good to know how to tie a bowtie.
Particularly if you were ever to serve as best man at a wedding.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9362534#9362564
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:31 PM
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13. *looks up and to the right* All of them. *self consciously puts hand over heart* I swear.
Edited on Tue May-11-10 12:32 PM by Richardo
Actually, more of them than I expected. I'd add #76 - Kill a snake. Because I've had to do that a few times.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:37 PM
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15. Now see, if I were a man I'd have to figure out if you were being truthful or not.
Being a woman, there'd be no doubt about it! :rofl:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:46 PM
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19. Yes, my lips were moving, weren't they? OK, I counted and got 58/75 (77%)
#77 - Know how to calculate percentages.

:hi: Bunny! :loveya: :fistbump:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:50 PM
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21. I will now spend the next hour guessing what the remaining 17 are.
:o

Actually, that's a pretty good percentage, Richardo. :thumbsup: :applause: :hi: :pals: :loveya:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:53 PM
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22. One of them is the craps bet.
I cannot fathom that game. Even the advice made no sense to me. :shrug:

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:56 PM
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27. Shooting craps is basically an archaic military game played by the seriously bored and even
the military doesn't play it any more.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:56 PM
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28. Me too! I had NO idea what he was trying to say about craps.
Okay, 16 more to guess....
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:30 PM
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68. Probably because it was bad advice
Betting and putting odds on the pass line is a good plan for craps - about the best odds you can get in a casino game. Just about everything else, including the suggestion to bet on the 4 or 10 is a pure sucker bet.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:35 PM
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14. I don't know how to turn this computer on,
so I can't post and reply to it. Sorry. I'm going to drink Gin with an old guy and listen to his 'good ole days yadda yadda yadda.' :eyes:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:38 PM
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16. Austin Lounge Lizards - "Old Blevins"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO30Yznbnrg

(Blind youtube link - hope this is the right one.)

:hi: CMW!
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:42 PM
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17. LOL!
Funny thing is that Oedi commented on it. ;)

:hi: Richardo!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:54 PM
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24. actually most of those, plus a few more
I've never tied a bowtie or scored a baseball game.

That said, I can cook like a MFer, know how to clean, can hug and kiss another man in public, don't have to eat meat to feel more manly, have nursed an orphan baby animal to health more than once, can sew more than a button, know how to dance a tango, and have stood up for the rights of people both directly and politically.

That writer makes a lot of assumptions about what "manly" is, honestly.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:19 PM
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32. Excellent point.
:thumbsup:
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:07 PM
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55. after thinking about it a while
I realized that there are a lot of idiotic assumptions in this list.

I immediately caught the "if you don't eat meat", you're not a real man and "if you don't drink alcohol", you're not a real man.

Then I realized that there would be no point to a gay man knowing anything about giving a woman an orgasm. :wtf:

I mean, for me, that's a useful skill to have :evilgrin: , but I don't think it's necessary to be a man, so naturally "if you are gay" you're also not a real man according to this writer. :puke:

And let me say, having the courage to hug and kiss another man in public is, IMO, a much stronger indicator of being a man than the ability to stick a fish hook in the water and catch a very stupid animal :eyes:
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:54 PM
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25. 30 inches ....wait , whats the question ?
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:54 PM
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34. I wish that were my waist size!
Well, actually I'd rather be a 32.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:56 PM
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26. This thread is mildly disappointing. *sigh*
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 02:49 PM
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36. And you were hoping for .... ?
Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 05:03 PM
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46. Pics, of course!
Hey, I'm a hopeless perv. :hi:
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 09:04 AM
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63. PM me your email address and I'll send you a really hot pic of me....
calculating square footage (#15 on the list) ;)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:59 PM
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29. from your excerpt, except for playing craps and buying a men's suit I stack up pretty well
:P

And I have actually MADE a men's sport coat before, so I probably pass muster there too.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:06 PM
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30. who gives a shit if he knows how to gamble...
and band loyalty is crap (... well except for heinz ketchup).
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 02:07 PM
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35. and his loyalty to Genessee beer?
I went to college upstate and that was the beer that gave you the bad beer farts.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:16 PM
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31. I got 69 of them - not too bad!
Never learned how to tie a bow tie, nor how to score a baseball game (seriously, who fucking cares about that?).

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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 03:03 PM
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38. Something tells me
I'll probably get about 2/3, I know a WHOLE LOT of stuff that's not on the list, and the author has never asked for directions in New England!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 03:30 PM
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41. or in rural America in general
"you go twofor up the road and turn at the red barn"

me: "what's "twofor"?

"well, as far as you can see is one..."
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:11 PM
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42. "Turn left where the big oak tree used to be."
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 05:42 PM
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47. exactly. Then take a left at the brown spotted dog. nt
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 10:42 PM
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59. We call those "Maine directions"
Turn before where something used to be.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 03:29 PM
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40. other than betting craps and installing a disposal I've done all of that
but a lot of them I wouldn't consider particularly essential. I think there are more important things for a man to do than be able to tie a bow tie.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:44 PM
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45. Have done all that except for playing gin - I AM an old man and I fucking hate cards...
a real waste of time.

I'd rather go out and shoot something.

Or watch football.

mark
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 06:29 PM
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50. and the man who doesn't learn any of those things should go find himself a woman willing to mother
him.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 06:50 PM
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51. a lot of these are stupid, IMO
why should I have to know a damn thing about cooking meat? I'm a vegetarian.

why should I have to know a damn thing about various alcoholic beverages? I don't drink.

why should I have to know a damn thing about fishing? I don't see the point - I won't eat it, so...kill or maim a fish for entertainment? don't think so.


I suspect the writer of this would consider me less of a man for being a vegetarian who doesn't drink, but I don't need him to validate my manhood.

Some of the things are ok, but a number of them make stupid assumptions.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:03 PM
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52. #1 find a woman who loves you n/t
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 08:24 PM
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53. Heinlein did it better
Dress a wound; comfort the dying; cook a tasty meal; navigate a ship
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:12 PM
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56. interesting
I know how to dress a wound in theory, but never had to apply the knowledge.

I've never known anyone who was dying, so again, never had the opportunity.

I can cook, but tasty might be overstating it a bit :P

Navigate a ship...is that really applicable today? Give me a GPS and I could probably manage it. I can navigate in a car very well. Give me a map and I can get just about anywhere. Heck, let me look the route over for a couple minutes before I go and I'll find it. I'm very good at street navigation.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:28 AM
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66. since he was a science-fiction writer he probably meant a starship.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 04:47 PM
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69. heh. well, then...
I wouldn't even know how to start :P
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:20 PM
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57. Is this the answer to the question "Why don't anyone read Esquire?"
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:12 AM
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60. Used to play chess for six-packs with a friend at work...
.
...who, once he found out I didn't want to smoke pot
before a chess game, put on BIGTIME pressure for me
to partake because I let him know that the reason
was that I SUCKED at playing chess stoned (duh).
.
I found out that he SUCK SUCK SUCKED at playing chess
stoned, so "allowed" him to take advantage of me by
firing up our pregame joint.
.
Fun, relaxing... AND profitable.
.
He provided the snacks, too.
.
:rofl:
.
.
Um... you know... like... man, whose move IS it?
.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:25 AM
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61. 76. Learn to dance
I always think that guys who learn to dance have one less thing to worry about in life.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:21 AM
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64. i got 72
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:27 AM
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65. OK, I think...
I've never done #56, #36 or #27.

I've done all the others pretty well.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:35 AM
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67. ' bout like a roll of silver dollars
:evilgrin:
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 07:23 PM
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70. I want to nitpick #7, lol
I love my Weber, and see it as both tool AND almost daily 'entertainment'. There are a variety of ways to use it, involving more than just tossing meat over coals. Using the lid and the vent system, as well as the indirect method of cooking, one can use the Weber as an oven, broiler, or slow cooker. It takes months to get a handle on the subtleties of cooking with it. When to add coals, when to use conventional charcoal versus wood charcoal, etc. Its versatility is one of the keys to its enduring popularity.

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