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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 06:25 AM
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TV shows that became unbearably preachy.
Just saw a later episode of The Cosby Show.

Sheesh.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 06:59 AM
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1. It is also a running joke around here that
dialogue from "Seventh Heaven" is like something out of a bad 70's therapy textbook.


"I really appreciate your talking honestly with me here, because it makes me realize that I have invalidated your feelings in the past. I want you to be open with me, and I realize that in order to do that, I need to be open to your needs and provide you with a safe communication zone when we are discussing something important to you. So, Ruthie, I hope you can forgive me, and as your big sister we will go together to the zoo now."
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:20 AM
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2. M*A*S*H and Designing Women
I liked the ensemble of actors, and Dixie Carter was great as the lead character, but the writers just had to give her a sledgehammer rant for the last 3 minutes of the show every single week. That got pretty tiresome.

And Alan Alda preachified MASH to unbearable limits.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:28 AM
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4. When Radar left and Klinger became the company clerk,
the show became unwatchable.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:49 PM
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17. As much as I love MASH from '73 through '79 or so
Those final few years were awful in so many ways.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:39 PM
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24. MASH was the first one to come to mind; Alda was a sanctimonious 3rd rate Groucho Marx
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:56 PM
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38. I loved Dixie Carter's (rip) rants. But you are right it did begin to go downhill
near the end.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:55 AM
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3. The West Wing
Now, we all loved President Bartlett, but imagine being a Republican and sitting through some of those soliloquies!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:36 AM
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10. Yup. Very preachy show. n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:31 AM
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5. The last couple of seasons of PTL Club have been like that. Jesus, Pat, give it a rest!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:59 PM
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22. LOL !!!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:47 AM
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6. vaguely recall Roseanne becoming totally unbearable.
Can't remember why. I think preachy was part of it.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:55 AM
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8. It became unbearable for me
after the Connors won the lottery.
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:53 AM
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7. King of the Hill nt
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:30 AM
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9. Kathryn Kuhlman
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:51 AM
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11. Well, it didn't really become preachy cause it was already that way, but Joan of Arcadia
One of my favorite Family Guy jokes, when a breaking news story interrupts the family watching Joan of Arcadia.

"We interrupt this broadcast to bring you a breaking news story."

"We apologize to Joan of Arcadia's sanctimonious, fear-based, and probably overweight viewers."

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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:09 AM
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12. "Family Ties." A lot of the later episodes were like Afterschool Specials.
The dad character got goofier so there'd be some insured comedy relief.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:40 PM
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21. yeah, definitely
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:10 AM
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13. "Touched by an Angel."
Unbearably preachy from start to finish. Likewise "Little House on the Prairie," aside from the episode when Laura pushed Nellie Oleson down the hill in a wheelchair.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:57 PM
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39. I was just going to say that
AGREED!!!
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jxnmsdemguy65 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:11 PM
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14. These shows often culminated in a Moment of Shit TM....
an actual term used in Hollywood to describe the 'moral lesson' that was the object of the show.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:16 PM
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15. the 700 Club? Fox News?
oh wait.

The Simpsons has been guilty of this, and of losing their funny sometimes because of it. Same with South Park in their own way.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:42 PM
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16. Different Strokes, South Park, All in the Family, Alice ....
I figure my choices are just about guaranteed to piss people off, but I can't help it.

South Park is one of my favorites, and it's the only one I'm not judging from distant memories. Most of the time it's great, but sometimes they really get on their high horse with their libertarian ideals.

All those other shows I haven't watched since I was a kid, and still considered myself a conservative like the rest of my family at the time. All in the Family was a great show, but Archie was too much of a buffoon and the "lessons" were sometimes a little too preachy for me. Different Strokes was a cool concept, but I think they tried to make too much out of it. As for Alice, her character just seemed to annoy me for some reason. I don't know why.

Anyway, flame me for South Park if you want, but leave me alone for the other ones. I might not feel that way about them if I watched them fresh today.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:53 PM
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18. South Park, Family Guy
Edited on Fri May-07-10 12:54 PM by Tommy_Carcetti
Everything has become Matt and Trey's own little Randian spin on everything. South Park was good the first two seasons or so when it was just dumb fun, but now it's not worth the bother.

Ditto with Family Guy; even though Seth McFarland seems to be a strong liberal, the show itself has made some of its messages rather heavy handed as of late.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 12:21 AM
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34. I agree with you on Family Guy
Somewhat on South Park. I think its a running joke on South Park that all their shows have a "special message" on them. But I can see how they can start to get irritating. But I think they are funny!


But Family Guy Geesh! Sure the shows have a strong liberal message but Seth MacFarlane beats you over the head with it and its not really funny anymore.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:19 PM
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19. virtually every saturday morning
cartoon show in the late sixties/early seventies.
Someone,somewhere decided that cartoons needed a 'moral' to the story.:puke:
That crap ruined Fat Albert.
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:39 PM
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20. Growing Pains
As soon as Kirk Cameron found Jesus.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:34 PM
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23. Davy and Goliath
Started out so cutting edge!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:41 PM
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25. "Why don't you pray about it, Davy?"
and a little dog shall lead them
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:54 PM
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26. Spongebob...
Grandma Squarepants really gets on my nerves!


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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 04:06 PM
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27. I'm sure this answer will get me added to a few Ignore lists...
but Ellen, after she came out on the air, became completely unbearable in its preachiness. It went from a comedy show (although it never was all that funny imo) to a half-hour block of instruction in Advanced Lesbian Acceptance. Okay, Ellen, you're a lesbian, we know you're a lesbian, those of us who still watch your show are okay with you being a lesbian, now how about putting a couple of jokes in your show?
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:01 PM
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30. huh. I didn't see a lot of episodes
and I don't remember them that well, but my memory is very different.

I found her show completely uninteresting until she came out - it seemed to have no point and nothing funny. Once she came out, it's like the show developed a reason to exist. :shrug:

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 04:18 PM
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28. Home Improvement!!!
I stopped watching after they had a preachy anti-marijuana episode. :puke:
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 04:34 PM
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29. Cubs baseball; "do not bet on this team, do not bet on this team ever..." Ok I get it.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:05 PM
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31. Dexter
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:08 PM
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32. Any show that ever advertised "a very special episode of..."
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 08:02 PM
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41. 7th Heaven completely abused the "very special episode" moniker.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 12:20 AM
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33. On the flip side, Star Trek: TNG started out unbearably preachy, but got much better
But those first couple of seasons were overwhelmingly sanctimonious. "Look, here's another episode about how morally superior the 24th century Federation is to pretty much every other alien society and/or any other epoch in human history!" Gah. It eventually became an excellent show, but those first couple of seasons are painful.
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WinterParkDonkey Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:14 AM
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35. I loved JAG....
until the last season or two.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 08:36 PM
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42. It always seemed to me
that for some reason TNG modeled itself after The Motion Picture rather than Wrath of Khan which was odd because it premiered on the heels of the successes of ST:II thtough IV after TMP damn near killed the franchise. TNG didn't really hit its stride until season 3.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:49 AM
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36. Agree totally about M.A.S.H...
.
...and I LOVE Mitchum's comment about Alan Alda in the post
above: "Alda was a sanctimonious 3rd rate Groucho Marx."
.
Perfect.
.
It disappointed me that Alda and/or the producers/directors
chose to portray Hawkeye not as a pacifist, but ultimately
as a coward again and again and again.
.
Couldn't watch it after a while.
.
Did tune in for that "FINAL show".
.
His character was SO disappointing that it did not really disappoint.
.

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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:28 PM
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37. Designing Women. I tended to agree with them, but wasn't as much fun as the earlier years.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:59 PM
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40. Star Trek Voyager...
"Captain Janeway, we have found a quick, easy, guaranteed way to get back to Earth!"

"Nope sorry it might sort of compromise some minor nitpicky ethical concern. We'll just have to take the long way."

Fuck, that bullshit got old quick.
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yankeepants Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 08:54 PM
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43. Highway to Heaven
My mother used to live for it.
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