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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:07 PM
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I love food, apparently it does not love me back...I ended up in the hospital again
sigh


I am thinking of going on an all liquid diet forever


and I still think the doctors are missing something...




Sprite
chicken broth
clear jello

yummy yummy
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:35 PM
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1. Diverticulitis?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:39 PM
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2. Crohn's
and pancreatitis
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:04 PM
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4. Sorry to hear that.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:04 PM
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5. *hugs* You must be getting so skinny. :^(
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM
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6. I have lost 26 lbs since September
am down to 103 lbs


not that I mind that, but ... the way I am losing it sucks
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:24 AM
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15. I'm guessing they've ruled out celiac?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:24 PM
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18. Microflora
Int J Med Microbiol. 2009 Sep 30.
Inflammatory bowel disease, gut bacteria and probiotic therapy.

Reiff C, Kelly D.

Department of Gut Immunology, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, AB21 9SB Aberdeen, UK.

Crohn's disease (CD) and ulcerative colitis (UC) are the two major forms of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) and both diseases lead to high morbidity and health care costs. Complex interactions between the immune system, enteric commensal bacteria and host genotype are thought to underlie the development of IBD although the precise aetiology of this group of diseases is still unknown. The understanding of the composition and complexity of the normal gut microbiota has been greatly aided by the use of molecular methods and is likely to be further increased with the advent of metagenomics and metatranscriptomics approaches, which will allow an increasingly more holistic assessment of the microbiome with respect to both diversity and function of the commensal gut microbiota. Studies thus far have shown that the intestinal microbiota drives the development of the gut immune system and can induce immune homeostasis as well as contribute to the development of IBD.

Probiotics which deliver some of the beneficial immunomodulatory effects of the commensal gut microbiota and induce immune homeostasis have been proposed as a suitable treatment for mild to moderate IBD. This review provides an overview over the current understanding of the commensal gut microbiota, its interactions with the mucosal immune system and its capacity to induce both gut homeostasis as well as dysregulation of the immune system. Bacterial-host events, including interactions with pattern recognition receptors (PRRs) expressed on epithelial cells and dendritic cells (DCs) and the resultant impact on immune responses at mucosal surfaces will be discussed.

PMID: 19800289


Dig Dis. 2009;27(3):412-7. Epub 2009 Sep 24.
Prebiotics, probiotics and helminths: the 'natural' solution?

Guarner F.

Digestive System Research Unit, Centro de Investigación Biomédica en Red de Enfermedades Hepáticas y Digestivas (CIBEREHD), University Hospital Vall d'Hebron, ES-08035 Barcelona, Spain. [email protected]

BACKGROUND: The pathophysiological mechanisms that generate chronic inflammatory lesions in inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) have, at least in part, been unveiled. Abnormal communication between gut microbial communities and the mucosal immune system is being incriminated as the core defect leading to intestinal injury in genetically susceptible individuals. The therapeutic manipulation of gut microecology has attracted high expectation as a strategic area for the control and prevention of IBD. METHOD: Literature review. RESULTS: The gut is the major site for induction of regulatory T cells, which secrete immunoregulatory cytokines such as IL-10 and TGF-beta and can regulate both Th1 and Th2 responses.

Recent findings suggest that some gut commensals, including lactobacilli, bifidobacteria and helminths, play a major role in the induction of regulatory T cells in gut lymphoid follicles. Such T cell-mediated regulatory pathways are essential homeostatic mechanisms by which the host can tolerate the massive burden of innocuous antigens within the gut without responding through inflammation. In clinical practice, the evidence for the use of probiotics or prebiotics is strongest in the case of pouchitis. In addition, one probiotic strain appears to be equivalent to mesalazine in maintaining remission of ulcerative colitis. However, studies of probiotics in Crohn's disease have been disappointing.

CONCLUSIONS: Further research is needed to optimize the use of probiotics, prebiotics or helminths for these indications. Copyright 2009 S. Karger AG, Basel.

PMID: 19786773
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:03 PM
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3. Oh shit, I'm sorry to hear that. :(
:hug: Get well soon!! :hi:

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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:44 PM
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7. Get well soon!!
hayaku yokunatte kudasai! odaijini!
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:21 PM
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8. You have my sympathy, I just went through a bout with pancreatitis
I just went through the pancreatitis gallbladder thing. My doctors are puzzled as to why this is happening. I have no history of acute causes, like drinking alcohol. The are now looking at the possibility of my pancreatitis being caused by an autoimmune response. I lost over 20lbs in 4wks and it really sucks to have an attack. Just like the times before it just stops and every this is normal.. This time I want answers.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:19 PM
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9. sounds like we are in teh same boat
My doctors have said Crohn's

after my extended stay at the "holiday Wesley" I got to have a day trip to the colonoscopy floor


now, they just tell me to alter my diet during flare ups...trouble is, the flare ups are coming more and more often

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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:20 PM
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10. I found this link that may be helpful to you
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:30 PM
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11. Oh God, my stepdad died of pancreatitis of unknown cause this Spring.
:(
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:30 PM
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12. Hope you get better!
:hi:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:33 PM
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13. I am so so sorry
:cry: :cry: :cry: :hug:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:23 AM
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14. so today, my hubby had off from work. I did not. When I got home
he had gone to the grocery store after doing a lot of research.


Bought a bunch of foods he had read online that other people take during bad flare ups.

He then drew me a hot bath and proceeded to fix me a light meal.

He loves me!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:46 AM
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16. I don't know if this works
but at the very least it seems to be harmless:

http://oilpulling.com/
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:13 PM
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17. Interesting
thank you for the link. I will check it out
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:39 AM
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21. A woman at Harbin Hot Springs
told me about it. She said it cleared up her brother's blood poisoning.
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cpompilo Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:58 PM
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19. Crohn's sucks. I have Crohn's, for 21 years now.
I got flamed for suggesting that diet can help manage symptoms, but I am living proof. I tried the standard medical treatment for Crohn's (prednisone, 16 pills of Pentasa/day, and then 6-MP(an immune suppressant that nearly killed me)). I ended up in the hospital twice in 3 years during those treatments. The doc who dx'd me said I was one of the worst cases he'd ever seen. I got down to 87 pounds, was an emaciated, dehydrated wreck due to having 15 - 20 bloody bm's a day for months on end(sorry for the grossness).
Nothing helped me until I found the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. It eliminates all di- and poly-saccharides, long chain sugar molecules that people with bowel disease do not have the enzymes needed to break down. Thus those sugar molecules stay in the gut, feeding bad bacteria which produce toxins and create a vicious cycle.

I urge you to read 'Breaking The Vicious Cycle' by Elaine Gottschall, M.S.
Web site also: www.BreakingTheViciousCycle.info
Also, www.PecanBread.com has stages of food introduction that can be helpful.

Also, there was a clinical trial done at Penn State by Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless for Low dose Naltrexone & Crohn's. www.LowDoseNaltrexone.org

Bone broth soups have anti-inflammatory properties. If you decide to try the SCD (Specific Carb. Diet), start with the intro diet for a few days. You have to stop eating all processed food and make everything from scratch. It can be difficult. The diet saved my life.
Carol
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:31 PM
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20. thank you. I feel so miserable right now
and my hubby just looks like he can't help and he feels bad. I tell him he is awesome but he feels like he can't make it better so he isn't doing his job.

I will look into the links you sent me. thank you so much
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:44 AM
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22. I got tummy problems too
I am getting a colonscopy, FINALLY! I put it off for a year! I just feel better that we are going to be able to see what the problem is and I can live like a human being again.

I will be on my liquid diet the day before too!!
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