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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:14 PM
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Did I miss something? When did the word 'advice' become the word 'advise' when used thusly:
"I'm asking for advice" seems to have become "I'm asking for advise".
I thought I was supposed to advise you when you asked for some advice.
Is this a regional thing? Are they really interchangeable? Is this common in the UK and has now crossed the pond into regular American usage? I'm seriously asking here. I keep seeing people ask for 'advise' and I sounds weird in my head that way.

-signed: the daughter of an English teacher.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:16 PM
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1. I don't think you've missed a thing.
Even though the end result of a request for advice can be an advisory.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:25 PM
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2. ...that's exactly it. Of course
I can understand the confusion; they both have the 'ss' sound so it's easy to translate it wrong in written word form. I guess reading it spelled correctly is where it became entrenched in my mind so well. Eh, I'm splitting hairs but it just hits me wrong. :)
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:27 PM
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3. It's still the same
advise = verb; i.e., I advise, you advise

advice = noun; i.e., I ask for advice


Everyday English usage continues to slide.

I'm an English Major.

:-)
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:27 PM
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4. people are morans?
:shrug:

The noun advice means "guidance."
The verb advise means to "recommend" or "counsel."

Em's father advised her not to see Sam. She should have followed his advice.

http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/AdviceAdvise.htm
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:27 PM
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5. The proper phrase is: "I'm asking for your validation of what I intend to do anyway."
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:47 PM
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6. When a bunch of idiots never learned to spell
and they get to run rampant all over the intertubes. These are the same people who spell the synonym for "one female" as "women".

Signed, a former English teacher and current grammar cop :hi:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:54 PM
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7. You must be loosing your mind
LOL. Funny you post that. I was just thinking about that. People misuse it constantly. I don't know why.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:11 PM
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8. Never.
People are idiots.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:14 PM
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15. I have always wanted to tell you that I love "Beagles Up!"
It always makes me laugh. :hi:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:49 PM
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17. Thanks!
:hi:

I wish he were mine IRL.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:15 PM
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9. Ask one of President Obama's "advicers" in GD.
They know everything.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 06:45 PM
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10. I hope your not going too run amuck over this...
:)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 06:52 PM
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11. I thought it was amok.
:)
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:00 PM
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13. Not anymore!
;)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 06:53 PM
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12. Too much online correspondence leads to some horrific
writing and communication errors. I'm a college English teacher and keep track of this stuff. The current, biggest offender is sentences with words left out. "Wrong word" (what you have described) is high on the list as well.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:01 PM
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14. About the same time "et voila!" became "etc viola" or "and wala!"
You and me, tilting at the same windmills.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:21 PM
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16. One possible origin is the phrase "advice and consent"
A popular novel and movie were called "Advise and Consent", using the verb form of both words. Note that the noun form of "consent" is the same as the verb form so all that distinguishes the two forms of that phrase is the "z" sound. This may have caused some confusion in the popular imagination because I often hear Article II pronounced as "with the advise and consent" of the Senate.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 10:59 PM
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18. The same time "loser" became "looser"
The next time you hear it, give those loosers some advise, like "Get some book larnin' ya fools!" :hi:

PS. And I hope people don't jump into this thread and say that the language is "evolving." That is complete BS...
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 11:43 PM
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19. he heh heh.. you said thusly heh
:*
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 07:14 AM
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20. Advice is a noun. Advise is a verb. That's what I was taught. n/t
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:44 AM
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21. You're probably reading this, not hearing it.
It's really a matter of people who are not proofreading their writing, but relying on spell-checkers to find any mistakes for them.
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