They found debris 1,300 kms off the coast of Brazil. At least they

[applegrove]

will be able to get the black boxes even if they cannot save any souls. According to CTV news.

[flvegan]

1. Did they really?

I hadn't heard that. How sad.

I was thinking that they originally said that the area they were suspecting was miles and miles deep. All I could think was that they'd never find anything.

[Richardo]

2. That's 8,000 miles - was it 1,300 km?

Not snarking, just want to know. Thanks.

[applegrove]

3. Maybe it was 1,300. Yup 8000 miles would be somewhere in the middle east wouldn't it.

[Pierre.Suave]

8. Coming out of DU retirement here to point out how wrong you are...

1,300 Kms is 807.8 miles...

:eyes:

[Richardo]

9. Taking you off Ignore to point out that the OP originally said 13,000km

Roll them eyes now, junior.

[Bunny]

10. And, we watch as someone now crawls slowly back into DU retirement.

:yoiks:




:hi:

[Richardo]

11. !!

:spray:




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[GCP]

16. Beautiful!

:thumbsup:

[bicentennial_baby]

17. !

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[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. ...

:loveya:

[EstimatedProphet]

12. Looks like you should stay retired.

[applegrove]

28. No we don't want PS retired. We want him out and about.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

36. but then who would provide us james bondesque stories?

you certainly wont :P

[A-Schwarzenegger]

20. Did I miss an UPDATE on the CONDO imbroglio?

:*

[Richardo]

21. ..

[applegrove]

27. When the poster pointed out my mistake and went and changed the Original Post from

13,000 to 1,300. Sorry I should have made that clear. I could see how you thought it was so. Sorry.

[sohndrsmith]

4. do you have a link for that? I've been searching the main wires, and

haven't found anything. Thanks.

[applegrove]

6. It was breaking news on CTV in canada.

[Captain Hilts]

5. Pilot on following flight on same path saw spots of orange glowing in the sea. nt

[applegrove]

7. I guess that is how it was identified in the dark.

[mainegreen]

13. I hate the fact that there were kids on the plane.

And an infant.

Hate, hate, hate that fact.

It's been bothering me a lot the last day.

[GCP]

15. I'm flying trans Atlantic tomorrow

And I hate the thought of what those poor people went through Turbulence is horrible and what they got must have been horrendous.

[bicentennial_baby]

18. Have a safe and lovely trip, GCP

:hi:

[GCP]

22. Thank you!

:hi:

[northzax]

23. if it helps

it seems really likely from what I have read that people on board the plane probably knew next to nothing about what was going on. the fact that a distress call wasn't made at all means that the crew, at the very least, was either unconscious or dead within seconds of whatever happened (there are too many redundancies built into aircraft for full electrical systems failure without massive depressurization to be at all likely) at 35,000 feet, depressurization will knock you out within about 5 seconds, if it doesn't kill you from the shock.

so at the very least, you don't have to imagine riding a seat down to the water (I fly all the time and have looked into it) the one good thing about a midair calamity is that you will never know about it.

[av8rdave]

25. At FL 350, Time of useful conciousness after a rapid decompression will run...

about 30 to 60 seconds, depending on a number of things. Either way, not much time to be aware.

[applegrove]

29. I didn't know there were kids on the plane. That makes it all the sadder.

[northzax]

24. they now have 29 days

to find and retrieve them. I hope the water isn't too deep (although I am sure the appropriate deep water submersibles would be made available)

[petronius]

30. Why 29 days?

Do the boxes have some sort of internal power supply? :shrug:

[strategery blunder]

31. You're pretty much correct.

They only have enough power to broadcast for 30 days IIRC.

And one of those days is already passed.

[petronius]

32. Thanks, that makes sense. It's not that data will be lost after 29 days, it's that

the chance of finding it in 10,000+ foot water drops to basically zero...

[Richardo]

26. ...

:kick:...for the night crew.

[cwydro]

33. Very, very unlikely that the flight data boxes will be found.

Huge depths of water there.

[Inchworm]

34. This amazes me

Well, makes me curious that there isn't a better way to pre-arrange location finding.

For like $90 I bought a gps device that uses 3 of 24 satellites 12,000 miles away to tell me where I am within feet.

If those boxes had two beacon systems built in (assuming water is different than atmosphere), one for water, one for air) it just seems that it would near impossible to screw up.

Maybe our air fleets need an upgrade?

:shrug:

[RebelOne]

37. According to most news reports, it's doubtful those boxes will be found. n/t

[cwydro]

38. The latest I heard is that these boxes are usually mounted in

the tail. When the plane crashes, if the box has been covered in wreckage AND is in thousands of feet of water, it will be very difficult to get signals from it.

I agree with you though, it seems like one of those, "If we can land a man on the moon..." kind of things.

[applegrove]

39. Yup CNN just saying that they haven't even got a signal from the black boxes. Says

the area they are looking at is 3 Square miles debris field. Oil slick is 12 miles long.

[cwydro]

40. Yes,

Not promising at all.

[underpants]

41. 2 miles deep

something like that

Can they dive that deep? :shrug:

[applegrove]

42. Plus the ocean floor is very mountainous.

[Richardo]

43. Any more news about the black box this morning?