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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:30 PM
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Worldview emails?! Is this someones idea of a sick joke?
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 08:36 PM by GirlinContempt
All of a sudden, I started getting all these emails from 'Worldview Weekend'. At first, I thought they were communications from a group I used to work with on political issues, an incredibly leftist group with a huge number of socialists involved. They do weekend workshops on different topics, that kinda thing. Anyway, I was just deleting them because based on the subject lines I didn't think they had anything to do with me.

Today I finally opened one, and it was THIS:
Item #1

Brannon Howse: Topic One: Were the Tea Parties the beginning of the tax revolt predicted by Gerald Celente? Topic Two: Gerald Celente and Brannon Howse have both predicted for years that America was moving toward Corporate Fascism. Government will trade federal aid for a large stake in ownership of some of America抯 biggest banks. Topic Three: Will 2012 be the year of America抯 financial collapse? Topic Four: FBI was spying on Americans and taking pictures and video of those that attended the Tea Parties? Topic Five: Here comes the hate crime legislation and crimilization of Christianity. Topic Six: Miss California lost contest for saying she disagreed with homosexual marriage? The homosexual judge that asked the question during the live broadcast calls Miss California a nasty four letter word during a recorded rant on his website but where is the media on his hate speech? Topic Seven: CNN抯 Anderson Cooper uses gross term in describing those that attended the Tea Parties. Why is this not hate-speech? Topic Eight: 17 year-old, self-professed, homosexual testifies before committee in Vermont calling for gay-marriage and in doing so admits it is not about gay-marriage.Click here to listen now.

The Solution to America's Problems Is A Biblical Worldview

Worldview Weekend Training Institute: Because You Can and Must Be A Biblical Worldview Instructor.

Seating is limited and our April 2009 class sold out. Don't delay, register today. Go to our site and read the testimonials from our training institute alumni.

Our nation is suffering from a lack of Biblical knowledge among adults and students. Your church, Christian school and local Bible study groups need you to become a Biblical worldview instructor.

Date: Friday, October 30th 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.
Saturday, October 31st 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.

Click here for full details:
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/traininginstitute/


And it links me here: http://www.worldviewradio.com/episode.php?EpisodeID=11694

Never mind the fact that they don't understand basic concepts, and are clearly whackadoos, but how the hell did I end up on this mailing list?

HOW?!?!


Edit:
Just in case anyone doesn't know, and I'm sure you probably do, hate speech refers to a person using words to attack, denigrate or insult people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc etc etc. Hate speech may also be used to refer to laws that some countries have, in which case hate speech often refers to using speech to incite violence and other hatecrimes. Hate speech does NOT mean hateful words, like swearing or yelling at someone, or about someone. It doesn't mean any rude words, offensive language, etc.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:32 PM
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1. Anyone who can pick up a new worldview in a weekend
might as well leave their brain at the door.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:56 PM
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5. Well, it probably isn't new
Just... retrained? Who knows.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:57 PM
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2. Well, its possible that another website has sold a list of web addresses to them...
that's the only way I can figure they got your email address if it was among the list.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:56 PM
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6. Maybe... but...
They seem pretty rinky-dink. Who knows for sure though.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:59 PM
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3. I get emails from them, too! Totally fucking insane.
They make me laugh.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:58 PM
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7. Don't you find it bizarre that you're getting them at all?
I just think it's so weird. I mean, I'm used to getting spam, penis enlargment, paypal fraud, etc. But off-the-deep-end wackadoodle political spam? Too odd.

Maybe someone secretly hates us both and is signing us up for the most obnoxious email lists they can find :P
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:04 PM
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9. No, I signed up for them. Came across them a couple years ago.
Total batshit lunacy.

And, while I think they're funny as hell, they are also extremely dangerous and represent that bizarro fascist fringe of the rightwing that probably wishes Truman had dropped a few nukes in the United States as well, specifically on the blacks, Latinos, gays, feminists, liberals, and anyone in New England.

It's lunacy, but it's a sick, paranoid, delusional, hate-based lunacy.

But, it's important for me to keep track of what the apostate, heretical end of Christianity is up to.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:20 PM
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12. Yeah
What I've found so far seems completely insane. I mean, their training course? Normally I wouldn't care but the stuff they're saying in the info about it is just fucking lunacy. And well, so is most of their other stuff... They seem way more off the deep end than a lot of others.

http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/petition.php?PetitionID=3&ReturnName=Worldview%20Weekend&ReturnTo=http://www.worldviewweekend.com
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:52 PM
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14. Yeah. I signed up for the same reason.
It's some pretty wild stuff.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:22 PM
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4. It's the crimilization that worries me.
I thought Brannon Howse was one of Dickens' most underrated works.:P
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:00 PM
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8. I wonder what a biblical worldview is.
Which Bible? Which parts? All of it? Some of it? Does the Torah count? Inquiring minds want to know
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:11 PM
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10. Well at least I know one thing: How much a biblical worldview COSTS
It's $300 for a weekend session, and that $300 buys you:
1. Leader's Manual
2. Student Worksheet Masters (no need to purchase student workbooks)
3. Power-Point Slides
4. Short DVD clips

Some more info on the course:

Why You Need To Become A Biblical Worldview Instructor



Our nation is suffering from a lack of Biblical knowledge among adults and students. Your church, Christian school and local Bible study groups need you to become a Biblical worldview instructor.

Brannon Howse is focusing on training and equipping adults just like you to become a worldview instructor. We need to multiple our efforts and we need you now.

Worldview Weekend Training Institute meets the CEU guidelines set forth by the Association of Christian Schools International and counts for four CEU credits. (1 CEU credit = 0.00001% of a Schrute Buck :P )

Adults and Students At Risk:

Researchers continue to come up with increasingly grave statistics that explain how serious the condition is. Among Christian adults:

* 64% believe moral truth depends on the situation;
* 60% believe male/female co-habitation outside of marriage is acceptable;
* 55% believe a good person can earn his or her salvation;
* 44% believe Jesus Christ committed sins while on earth.(1)



And consider the peril of college students:

* 67% of college professors approve of homosexuality;
* 84% of professors approve of abortion;
* 65% embrace socialist and communist ideals;(2)
* 88% of students from “Christian” homes deny their faith before they graduate from college;
* 91% of students from evangelical churches do not believe in absolute moral truth.(3)


Recognizing the life-and-death nature of the issue, the Southern Baptist Convention, to its credit, has even done a self-study and found that 88% of young people from SBC homes deny their faith before they graduate from college. After fielding questions and e-mails from thousands of students, Worldview Weekend can tell you they are eager for worldview training. In fact, they’re dying for it (pun intended). What they cannot figure out is why you are not interested and why you think they would not be interested. They even wonder why you don’t make them go through worldview training regardless of whether they say they want to or not. After all, your kids were not interested in eating their vegetables, but you made them. They didn’t want to sit in a car seat or wear a seat belt, but you insisted. They balked at having to check in with you and tell where they were going with their friends, but you required it. You were resolute in making sure they were physically nurtured and protected, but they think you’ve thrown them to the wolves spiritually. (oooooh lordy)

Most students say they did not learn enough Bible content growing up to enable them to make biblical life decisions, let alone defend essential Christian doctrines in the face of vicious opposition. That is because no one made them. Hence, CODE BLUE is upon us.

Worldview Weekend is committed to a three prong strategy for its Worldview Training Institute. 1). Teach Christians to contend for the faith through apologetics training. 2). Teach Christians to think like Biblically minded Christians through worldview training. 3). Teach Christians to evangelize like Jesus did using the Moral Law.

Where do most Christian students get their perspective on history and sociology or learn about the question of origins? The frightening reality is that most take in the steady diet of Secular Humanism served up in our public schools. And in college, it only gets worse. Worldview Weekend speaker Kerby Anderson puts it this way:

When a student enrolls in Philosophy 101, it could just as easily be called Atheism 101. A class in Sociology 101, should really be called Postmodernism 101. A class on Religion 101, is really a class that should be called Religious Pluralism 101. And a class in Biology 101, would more accurately be called Evolution 101.


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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:19 PM
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11. ...
Among Christian adults:

* 64% believe moral truth depends on the situation;
* 60% believe male/female co-habitation outside of marriage is acceptable;
* 55% believe a good person can earn his or her salvation;
* 44% believe Jesus Christ committed sins while on earth.(1)

And consider the peril of college students:

* 67% of college professors approve of homosexuality;
* 84% of professors approve of abortion;
* 65% embrace socialist and communist ideals (2)
* 88% of students from “Christian” homes deny their faith before they graduate from college;
* 91% of students from evangelical churches do not believe in absolute moral truth.(3)


On the behalf of liberal secular humanists everywhere, I just want to say:

:woohoo: Woohoo! We're winning! We're winning! :woohoo:
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:11 PM
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15. I *REALLY* want to know where those stats came from.
For realsies.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:25 PM
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13. Key term is "researchers continue to come up with". That goes with the CEU idea.
Which is to say, CEU is not to be confused with CE, continuing education, because CE requires an accredited school or program; and so also these researchers, instead of *finding* specific data, they just come up with it.

That's how the right works. Especially the paranoid rightwing Christians; who really aren't Christians, but are racist white homosexual-hating American triumphalists who realize, as did Hitler and many other evil fucks, it's easier to spread your hate-filled money-grubbing paranoid delusional nonsense if you wrap it in Jesus.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:12 PM
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16. Poor Jesus
:(
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